I never said they are better than AsciLab, also didn't say all models are equally good
2.8 kHz crossover point for such a waveguided design is way too high. Others use 1.8 kHz, which is much more sensible.
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B &W advise needed
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2.8 kHz crossover point for such a waveguided design is way too high. Others use 1.8 kHz, which is much more sensible.
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I've heard some good ones over the years, but nothing current.
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Buchardt's S400 MKII crossover is 1.8 kHz.I never said they are better than AsciLab, also didn't say all models are equally good
In the E50 it is 2.0 kHz.
But ultimately, a speaker is a sum of its parts.
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And neither do the other brands you listed—most use drivers from SB Acoustics. KEF may be the only exception. Why even mention it?
Wrong—Buchardt was the first of any of these companies to use the Klippel NFS to design both their speaker and their own metal waveguide for that tweeter in 2018.
Ascend does not use waveguides.
Huh? What a strange bone to pick. They design their own speaker cabinets.
I recommend researching the speakers before writing critical posts.
I listed two brands that deserve to be on a short list of excellent speakers with great frequency response and directivity.
And which are MUCH better than B&W.
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I would also include Philharmonic Audio.Would advise against B&W if you're after reproduction that's faithful to the source material.
B&W designs usually put their own house sound over every track that you play, and it's difficult to get rid of due to the often poorly controlled directivity.
6-8k is a mighty budget that can buy you speakers which are clearly better engineered than Bowers - though they won't get you the same street cred in your nearest HiFi shop if that's what you're after
If passive floorstanders are desired, then I'd shortlist:
Ascilab (C8T)
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Philharmonics will sound substantially better than B&W. If you're after that style of speaker, you can't go wrong with them.
I’ve owned B&W 803D; they’re an acquired taste and require a certain type of amplifier to sound their best so there’s that. After enjoying them for five years of ownership I moved onto DALI for my 2.1 system & Adam Audio for my 7.2 HT; mainly because I prefer the sound of ribbon tweeters over diamonds. I found my tastes change over time but I’ve owned ribbons longer than any other by far. My journey started with Klipsch then Paradigm then B&W and now DALI & Adam.
10 years ago I wal looking for my first "contemporary" large speakers. I heard Adam - version with both tweeter and mid range ribbons. The only combination I sort of like was with McIntosh power amps. I liked Thiel 3.7 the most. But ended with 802D. I was lucky that they worked in my 12x13 room I had back then.