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AVR vs Stereo amp for music
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Lol, a bit strong of a statement, but can't say you are wrong.
Calm down man, everyone's entitled to their own opinion and choice in amps.
And that comment gets a thumbs down vote from me.
Because 'do amps sound different?' has never been discussed on ASR.
You simply have not demonstrated that. Not even close. Do you know what would be required? Not just blinding.
Oh dear, thumbs down from you, not that!!Did me calling audiophiles on other forums 'stupid and wrong', dis-entitle them?
He said, calmly.
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Now imagine a knob, that can balance 10 channels
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Well, just did that for about 10 minutes. So I can say now that I won’t like it. Simply because that’s not the kind of balance control I would expect on a stereo ampNow imagine a knob, that can balance 10 channels
10 minutes - and you call that a serious effort? And why would you ever need a balance control to start with? Thinking back, it was last century when I last had that feature. Except in my cars of course.Well, just did that for about 10 minutes. So I can say now that I won’t like it. Simply because that’s not the kind of balance control I would expect on a stereo amp
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I don’t think I did.
I didn’t say that I need a balance control either.
The only thing I wanted to say is that a real balance control knob is something I personally would want to see on a stereo amp. Is that cool?
All is cool. I also want great many things. But modern equipment does balancing in a different ways that are still effective. Can't stop progress I guess?
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What exactly would you like me to demonstrate? I’m not a tech expert, and my measuring tools are limited to an Umik2 microphone and REW. I’m just someone who uses these tools and tries to understand what I hear. It might be that I’ve suggested myself, as you mentioned, and the only way to prove me wrong is to compare the technical specs or the interpretations of tests found in forums like ASR or Hi-Fi News. The ASR review of the Denon was quite disappointing while the test of the Audiolab reflected nice distorsion results. I’m open to hearing your perspective!
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VU meters are cool. You need a balance knob to keep the needles moving evenly.
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With a mono signal, definitely. With stereo... well... it could turn into a sisyphean task.
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The audiophile's pursuit never endsWith stereo... well... it could turn into a sisyphean task.
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I have spent some days now with combining a newly purchased turntable with a not so new Denon AVR. Was quite some effort actually to make the AVR behave like a 2-channel integrated amp as far as possible.
Fun fact: I eventually abandoned the idea of using the AVR’s modes »Direct« or »Pure Direct« – although they where first choice in order to make the AVR work as a »real« amp. Instead I found that mode »Stereo« – which takes the results of a newly done Audyssey measurement run into account – sounds best to me.
Fun fact: I eventually abandoned the idea of using the AVR’s modes »Direct« or »Pure Direct« – although they where first choice in order to make the AVR work as a »real« amp. Instead I found that mode »Stereo« – which takes the results of a newly done Audyssey measurement run into account – sounds best to me.
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My curiosity is what prompted me to start the thread. I don't know any better - I can only go on what others tell me. Knowing this forum is more technical and science-minded, I thought it would be a good idea to post the question here.
I don't have an engineering background or anything. But what I'm gathering is that... stereo amps can technically outperform AVR's on the bench, but whether it's audible is a kettle of fish. Most here are saying probably no audible difference.
Do you a more detailed perspective on the topic you could share?
He came to the right forum anyway.
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