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Aune S17pro and Schiit Valii 3

JediMa

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I didn’t expect this at all, but after adding a Schiit Vali 3 next to my Aune S17 Pro, I finally understood why people keep both solid state and tube amps.

The Aune is clearly the more “audiophile” amp in the traditional sense:

  • cleaner
  • faster
  • more detailed
  • more controlled
With planars like the Arya or HE6, it sounds incredible for energy, attack and separation.

But the Vali 3 gave me something completely different instead of simply “better”:

  • thicker guitars
  • fuller mids
  • more emotional presentation
  • less analytical, more immersive
It’s such a different listening experience that instant A/B comparisons can almost feel misleading.

If you stay with the Vali for a while, you stop listening for detail and start listening to the music itself.

Some tracks became almost physical experiences with the Vali + Meze 109 Pro combo. Smashing Pumpkins especially sounded huge and textured, like the guitars were wrapping around me instead of just hitting me.

In the end, I achieved exactly what I wanted:
one main setup and a second, relatively inexpensive one for pure fun listening.

  • Aune for clarity, energy and technical listening
  • Vali for mood, immersion and emotional listening
Different tools for different states of mind.
 
I didn’t expect this at all, but after adding a Schiit Vali 3 next to my Aune S17 Pro, I finally understood why people keep both solid state and tube amps.

The Aune is clearly the more “audiophile” amp in the traditional sense:

  • cleaner
  • faster
  • more detailed
  • more controlled
With planars like the Arya or HE6, it sounds incredible for energy, attack and separation.

But the Vali 3 gave me something completely different instead of simply “better”:

  • thicker guitars
  • fuller mids
  • more emotional presentation
  • less analytical, more immersive
It’s such a different listening experience that instant A/B comparisons can almost feel misleading.

If you stay with the Vali for a while, you stop listening for detail and start listening to the music itself.

Some tracks became almost physical experiences with the Vali + Meze 109 Pro combo. Smashing Pumpkins especially sounded huge and textured, like the guitars were wrapping around me instead of just hitting me.

In the end, I achieved exactly what I wanted:
one main setup and a second, relatively inexpensive one for pure fun listening.

  • Aune for clarity, energy and technical listening
  • Vali for mood, immersion and emotional listening
Different tools for different states of mind.
Blind, level-matched to 0.01V comparison?

Do you have measurements?
 
I didn’t expect this at all, but after adding a Schiit Vali 3 next to my Aune S17 Pro, I finally understood why people keep both solid state and tube amps.

The Aune is clearly the more “audiophile” amp in the traditional sense:

  • cleaner
  • faster
  • more detailed
  • more controlled
With planars like the Arya or HE6, it sounds incredible for energy, attack and separation.

But the Vali 3 gave me something completely different instead of simply “better”:

  • thicker guitars
  • fuller mids
  • more emotional presentation
  • less analytical, more immersive
It’s such a different listening experience that instant A/B comparisons can almost feel misleading.

If you stay with the Vali for a while, you stop listening for detail and start listening to the music itself.

Some tracks became almost physical experiences with the Vali + Meze 109 Pro combo. Smashing Pumpkins especially sounded huge and textured, like the guitars were wrapping around me instead of just hitting me.

In the end, I achieved exactly what I wanted:
one main setup and a second, relatively inexpensive one for pure fun listening.

  • Aune for clarity, energy and technical listening
  • Vali for mood, immersion and emotional listening
Different tools for different states of mind.

What I don’t get is saying an A/B test can be misleading. The point of the test is to separate what is actually audible from what we expect or emotionally project onto the gear. It removes the non-audible parts of the experience: price, looks, glowing tubes, expectation, mood, and the story around the product.

If you said the experience is more enjoyable when you don’t know what a proper A/B test might reveal, I could actually agree with that. But that is very different from saying the test itself is misleading. The test is not misleading you - it may just be removing parts of the experience that were never in the sound to begin with.
 
Blind, level-matched to 0.01V comparison?

Do you have measurements?
No just my very personal taste, I wanted to share my experience not an absolute truth
 
If you hear your 109 Pro slightly differently on different amps, you are not necessarily perceiving magic. As a dynamic headphone, the Meze 109 Pro is influenced by impedance.


You also own a HE6se V2. You should not perceive any difference between the amps there.

 
If you hear your 109 Pro slightly differently on different amps, you are not necessarily perceiving magic. As a dynamic headphone, the Meze 109 Pro is influenced by impedance.


You also own a HE6se V2. You should not perceive any difference between the amps there.

Arya sounds different, iems too, hd600 big difference
 
I have the Aune s17 evo pro and wouldn't”t call it technical at all.
It provides everything one would expect from a Class-A amplifier.
Smooth, detailed, energy and bass control. All emotional. And I use it only on a DAP Fiio m11+ ESS with its balanced output
 
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