Audyssey's Next Generation of Room Correction (MultEQ-X)

[Webninja]

Hmm, $200 and Windows desktop only. I’ll wait to see if this is worth it. I was hoping for a cheaper price point.

 

[Anterantz]

Fuck,200€

 

[peng]

"Licenses are per-user and per-AVR-serial-number, and are non-transferrable."

$200 per AVR, non-transferable to a new buyer, and not usable on a new AVR? That's going to be a deal breaker for many people, possibly for me. It's a shockingly consumer unfriendly move.

They should offer a 10% discount for those who have already purchased the MultEQ Editor App.

 

[fieldcar]

While I'm probably going to take the expensive plunge, there is nothing stopping any of us from using REW + Umik-1 + ratbuddyssey

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[maverickronin]

Microsoft Store only?

Yuck.

 

[anthonymoody]

Hmm, $200 and Windows desktop only. I’ll wait to see if this is worth it. I was hoping for a cheaper price point.

And it's per user/per AVR. So unless I'm mistaken you couldn't pay your dealer to do it. (Thinking further - I guess they could create an additional user on their PC for my set up).

 

[beren777]

They should offer a 10% discount for those who have already purchased the MultEQ Editor App.

I'd be okay without the discount, but I shouldn't have to buy a new license one for every AVR I buy. They could allow one license reset or addition via online proof of purchase submittal, for example, if they're that afraid people will misuse the licensing for multiple units they don't own. People should be able to transfer the license via serial number for free or a reduced cost. Limit it to a certain number per year if they must. Instead they took the most anti-consumer approach they could.

 

[sweetchaos]

Link to Microsoft Store shows a few screenshots:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/p/multeq-x/9p0smvdtvhqj?activetab=pivot:eek:verviewtab#

EDIT: This is the link to the Canadian Store, not sure if this will work elsewhere.

 

[sting004]

Complete money grab honestly. They say this is for dealers/installers...how does that make sense if you have to shell out $200 for EVERY AVR you calibrate? Big miss here.

 

[Jdunk54nl]

Complete money grab honestly. They say this is for dealers/installers...how does that make sense if you have to shell out $200 for EVERY AVR you calibrate? Big miss here.

Easy. Dealer doesn't license it in their name. They license it in the client's name and the client pays the $200. Dealer just uses it for setup purposes.

 

[sting004]

Easy. Dealer doesn't license it in their name. They license it in the client's name and the client pays the $200. Dealer just uses it for setup purposes.

Good point. I don't see this as being particularly appealing as a customer though. Anyway, me as a consumer, I'll stick with XT32 and/or Dirac.

 

[SKBubba]

Nice. With the one user one amp limit, though, I'd only pay $50. Maybe $100.

 

[Trell]

Is it possible to use your own measurement mic?

 

[sweetchaos]

Still watching the seminar...

Questions that came up:
1. Will this be available later?
Yes, a link to the presentation will be emailed (and I'll add it later) and video will posted on youtube channel

2. Can I use my calibrated microphone (like the MiniDSP Umik-1) with the AVRs?
No. It needs to be a microphone (either the small mic that comes with Denon/Marantz AVRs or one from from Sound United...something like the Pro Kit, to be announced later)

3. I want to fix my speakers with PEQ curves, is that possible?
Yes, we have unlimited number of PEQ filters (using the app), so you can correct anything you want. You won't need to run Audyssey room correction to use this feature, meaning you can just adjust PEQ filters without running Audyssey.
This is awesome!!!

4. Can you use two target curves (say one for more bass and one for less bass) and then switch back and forth instantly?
Yes, add the 1st target curve to "reference", add the 2nd target curve to "flat".
Then using the remote, switch between each instantly.
This is awesome!!!

5. More screenshots from "Step 3 (measure)":

The webinar is still going on...but I have to run out, so I can't finish watching it.

 

[fieldcar]

Is it possible to use your own measurement mic?

No. It needs to use the supplied wired mic.

The webinar is still going on...but I have to run out, so I can't finish watching it.

I've tried to have a ton of technical questions answered, but the UMIK-1 was the only question that was answered.


I want to know if EQ tilt will be possible.


EDIT: Sounds like they're covering them now. Yay!

EQ Tilt confirmed!

 

[SKBubba]

$200 is a > 40% premium on their entry level avr-s760h. Not that those buyers are likely to be all that interested.

 

[Trell]

No. It needs to use the supplied wired mic.

Thanks, this is a bummer and I see little point of this software apart from easier editing as their app on Android/iOS apparently is pretty poor from a ui point of view.

I’ve got a 2015 model of a Denon AVR with no app support so little reason for me to upgrade from what is known today of the new software.

 

[KMO]

FWIW, this is the way their Audyssey Pro licensing has always worked. Although they've bumped the cost from $150 to $200.

This is effectively the "zero effort" option for them in terms of reusing their existing 10-year-old infrastructure.

Would certainly be more friendly to do what Dirac Live does, which is permit user transfers so you can sell on the licenses. (That involves submitting an application for manual intervention and a couple of days' processing, apparently, but it's free).

I think with Audyssey Pro, you probably could effectively sell your license if you had an installer login with just the one AVR licensed to it, and handed that account over. I wonder if there's anything stopping that here?

 

[peng]

I'd be okay without the discount, but I shouldn't have to buy a new license one for every AVR I buy. They could allow one license reset or addition via online proof of purchase submittal, for example, if they're that afraid people will misuse the licensing for multiple units they don't own. People should be able to transfer the license via serial number for free or a reduced cost. Limit it to a certain number per year if they must. Instead they took the most anti-consumer approach they could.

I suggested that only because if I bought the $200 package then I won't be using the $20 App but agreed, not really a make or break issue.

If I understood them right, you can transfer the license to a replacement unit in case the unit failed, but only if the replacement model is the same as the one failed. That doesn't seem fair but probably half fair I guess..

 

[sarumbear]

"Licenses are per-user and per-AVR-serial-number, and are non-transferrable."

$200 per AVR, non-transferable to a new buyer, and not usable on a new AVR? That's going to be a deal breaker for many people, possibly for me. It's a shockingly consumer unfriendly move.

Maybe I’m missing something but what I see is they are charging money to bring extra functionality to an AVR. When you sell that AVR the functionality goes with that AVR.

When you buy an option for your car isn’t it the same? Why should I expect the superior sound system option I paid for my BMW to be applied to my new BMW?

Audyssey is not a measurement tool that is used by a technician or a hobbyist. It’s is an option for an AVR.