Also in blind tests the listeners probably could identify the presence of Jitterbug in appr. 50% off the cases. Not bad!And it only appears to work for some but not for others. It actually only works for people who actually listen to it .
Also in blind tests the listeners probably could identify the presence of Jitterbug in appr. 50% off the cases. Not bad!And it only appears to work for some but not for others. It actually only works for people who actually listen to it .
What marketing department? These are not huge companies with big marketing departments who don't speak to the designer. This is a little box and they state what they state. Filtering can improve jitter by the way by getting rid of high frequencies that randomize clock edges. The reason this thing doesn't do that is the the filtering is also inside the USB receiver in the form of PLL so it doesn't do any good.Probably because of miscommunication between their marketing department and their consultant/product designer Gordon Rankin...or did you find a reclocking device in the Bug?
What marketing department? These are not huge companies with big marketing departments who don't speak to the designer. This is a little box and they state what they state. Filtering can improve jitter by the way by getting rid of high frequencies that randomize clock edges. The reason this thing doesn't do that is the the filtering is also inside the USB receiver in the form of PLL so it doesn't do any good.
The JitterBug is price wise at the bottom of USB cleaners that can cost infinitely. While I have no doubt that not everything is placebo, I also would not buy such devices above a certain (low) price point. Personal preference. OK, total lifetime expenditure: $50 CAD.Also in blind tests the listeners probably could identify the presence of Jitterbug in appr. 50% off the cases. Not bad!
Well, ship happens, Cptn. I found Sennheiser's marketing claims of their IE 500 PRO earphone totally misrepresenting, too. And I know both of their iem product managers (past and present)...can't be that big section within the company either. In fact, check ANY claims of ANY earphone manufacturer...or dongle manufacturer...you get the world's best at $80 it seems .What marketing department? These are not huge companies with big marketing departments who don't speak to the designer. This is a little box and they state what they state. Filtering can improve jitter by the way by getting rid of high frequencies that randomize clock edges. The reason this thing doesn't do that is the the filtering is also inside the USB receiver in the form of PLL so it doesn't do any good.
There is a better way to clear the confusion. Blind tests provide a wonderful opportunity for the manufacturers (Audioquest, for example) to demonstrate their system actually works. I just wonder why there are so few takers.And there may be expectation bias both ways: some may hear a difference because they forked out the money, and others may not because the measurements tell them so. And some may be unbiased. Fine, as long as it works for them and everybody is happy.
More time consuming, but also effective, are long-time tests. When I have a good selection of the same kind of device available, which one will I pick, let's say, three months later.There is a better way to clear the confusion. Blind tests provide a wonderful opportunity for the manufacturers (Audioquest, for example) to demonstrate their system actually works. I just wonder why there are so few takers.
No need to measure placebo effect.It would very interesting to understand how this effect can arise if you cannot measure it. Understand that I believe in science as a theoretical physicist by training.
I do hear a difference with the JitterBug using this set-up: Google Pixel 3a, Cyrus SoundKey, Sennheiser HD 650: the sound is less harsh and more enjoyable. Actually, I do feel uneasy without the JitterBug. I was listening to violin music where I probably have a personal bias since I am an amateur player.
It would very interesting to understand how this effect can arise if you cannot measure it. Understand that I believe in science as a theoretical physicist by training.
All we now need is a proper blind test result which supports you claims.Not everything that matters can be measured and not everything that can be measured matters - Former Audio Precision CEO
There are two basic signal contaminations: jitter (timing errors) and RFI/EMI interference (from the VBUS/power supply).
The Jitterbug is a misnomer: it is a passive device and does not remove jitter. Timing errors are removed by re-clocking the signal.
Therefore, the measured jitter remains the same.
But, how you measure sonic improvements through the removal of interference beats me. That's not covered by the measurements here.
I am currently testing the new Jitterbug FMJ. It works with most devices connected to computer/phone. In these cases, it adds depth to the stage and removes shrillness at the top end. It rounds corners.
A good way of testing this is taking your dongle and crank the volume up to the point where it is getting unpleasant. Then add the Jitterbug.
But it does not work with all devices. The Shanling UA1 is obviously so shrill and harsh even without USB noise that removing it makes no difference.
...you mean my observations! To me the differences are pretty obvious.All we now need is a proper blind test result which supports you claims.
Does not matter at all....you mean my observations! To me the differences are pretty obvious.
------Not everything that matters can be measured and not everything that can be measured matters - Former Audio Precision CEO
There are two basic signal contaminations: jitter (timing errors) and RFI/EMI interference (from the VBUS/power supply).
The Jitterbug is a misnomer: it is a passive device and does not remove jitter. Timing errors are removed by re-clocking the signal.
Therefore, the measured jitter remains the same.
But, how you measure sonic improvements through the removal of interference beats me. That's not covered by the measurements here.
I am currently testing the new Jitterbug FMJ. It works with most devices connected to my computer/phone. In these cases, it adds depth to the stage and removes shrillness/grain at the top end. It rounds corners.
A good way of testing this is taking your dongle and crank the volume up to the point where it is getting unpleasant. Then add the Jitterbug.
But it does not work with all devices. The Shanling UA1 is obviously so shrill and harsh even without USB noise that removing it makes no difference.
Yet there is no reason to believe that the Jitterbug changes the sound in any way.------
"... In these cases, it adds depth to the stage and removes shrillness/grain at the top end. It rounds corners."
This is also my impression with the Jitterbug, though I have less effect on the stage - which might relate to using the HD 650.
Yes I used it mainly with dongles and various iems. And no, we don't believe, we listen!------
"... In these cases, it adds depth to the stage and removes shrillness/grain at the top end. It rounds corners."
This is also my impression with the Jitterbug, though I have less effect on the stage - which might relate to using the HD 650.
You believe you listen. Why do you bother posting?Yes I used it mainly with dongles and various iems. And no, we don't believe, we listen!
What I find interesting in all subjective reviews is how a ‘jitterbug’, powercable, interconnects, speaker cable etc always seem to add depth to bass, the instruments / performers are more separated, the silence becomes darker, the attack/timing is better etc. Strange isn’t it? Why doesn’t anyone take up the blind test offer that has been regularly offered? It doesn’t take long to do, an hour tops, as the differences are pretty obvious. When the shows open again you would be famous as you can completely debunk the “measurement crowd”. Surely the manufacturers would be delighted to participate as they again can demonstrate how brilliant their products are? I think we know the answer....you mean my observations! To me the differences are pretty obvious.
What I find interesting in all subjective reviews is how a ‘jitterbug’, powercable, interconnects, speaker cable etc always seem to add depth to bass, the instruments / performers are more separated, the silence becomes darker, the attack/timing is better etc. Strange isn’t it? Why doesn’t anyone take up the blind test offer that has been regularly offered? It doesn’t take long to do, an hour tops, as the differences are pretty obvious. When the shows open again you would be famous as you can completely debunk the “measurement crowd”. Surely the manufacturers would be delighted to participate as they again can demonstrate how brilliant their products are? I think we know the answer.
You believe you listen. Why do you bother posting?
It is 'Wiedersehen'.I found the switch to turn email notifications off. This thread is pure trolling. People telling me what I hear or don't hear is ludicrous. Auf Wiedersehn!