fpitas
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‘Imaging’ and ‘soundstage’ are determined by the source recording (CD, vinyl etc) and are realised (for better or worse) by transducers (speakers and headphones, and in the case of the former, the room). Nothing in between - DACs, amplifiers, cables - should not have any effect upon ’imaging’ and ‘soundstage’.Tat's fair enough and like i have stated i'm a real skeptic when it comes to speaker cables. But let's take this scenario. if some cables were somehow able to produce better imaging or soundstage, would that be measurable?
BTW I'm not trolling, i'm open minded and willing to listen and be proven wrong
I'll continue that subject; even in that case, the "right" solution is to RF terminate the cable. That however only costs about $1, and won't impress any of your friends (unless they're geeky engineers).If the amplifier is sensitive to the cables connected to it, then the amplifier has a problem. Of course, if your cable puts several nanofarads of C across the amp's terminals, then YMMV.
Get this monkey off my rack!!Should a monkey break into your home and chew all your Hi-Fi cables up--I would hope these would survive? Just curious.
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I think we must admit that although AudioQuest may not have a clue about audio science they do have the best marketeers in town....
That's not right... the one the comes into my home just wants to phone home;Should a monkey break into your home and chew all your Hi-Fi cables up--I would hope these would survive? Just curious.
Watch out, they are probably not monkeys after all...That's not right... the one the comes into my home just wants to phone home;
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What is amazing is how much money these companies make selling nothing... far more than I do when I do real work and make real products. That is the sad reality here...
yes i understand it comes from the recordings‘Imaging’ and ‘soundstage’ are determined by the source recording (CD, vinyl etc) and are realised (for better or worse) by transducers (speakers and headphones, and in the case of the former, the room). Nothing in between - DACs, amplifiers, cables - should have any effect upon ’imaging’ and ‘soundstage’.
Watch out, they are probably not monkeys after all...
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Characteristic impedance is of no consequence in a living room length of analog audio cable, speaker or small signal. So long as R, L & C of the cable are reasonable for the intended application, there will be no problem with the cable. Reason is that such a cable is vastly shorter than the wavelength of the analog audio signal it carries, so both ends of the cable are at the same voltage at the same time, always, ignoring the small drop due to R, L & C, which at audio will be tiny in a well-designed cable.I'll continue that subject; even in that case, the "right" solution is to RF terminate the cable. That however only costs about $1, and won't impress any of your friends (unless they're geeky engineers).
Loudspeaker Cable Characteristic Impedance
What is the effect of the characteristic impedance of a loudspeaker cable? Is it important to match the cable to the speaker load impedance, or is this simply a marketing ploy?sound-au.com
Did you even read the article?Characteristic impedance is of no consequence in a living room length of analog audio cable, speaker or small signal. So long as R, L & C of the cable are reasonable for the intended application, there will be no problem with the cable. Reason is that such a cable is vastly shorter than the wavelength of the analog audio signal it carries, so both ends of the cable are at the same voltage at the same time, always, ignoring the small drop due to R, L & C, which at audio will be tiny in a well-designed cable.
It's not RFI. It's the effect on the amp loop gain, which extends to RF because it's a feedback amp and has to meet the Bode criterion for stability. If you expect full feedback at 20kHz, the unity gain point is in the MHz. And as I said, followers are in a world of their own.I would worry about RFI if I lived in a high RFI environment. Since I don't, for me it's a non-issue. If you are stuck in a high RFI environment, then just about anything electronic will be affected by it. I once lived near an antenna farm that had several large radio & TV broadcast towers on E. Capitol Drive in Milwaukee, WI, USA. I was simply unable to prevent RFI interference in my audio setup, having asked a few RF people what I could do about it. I moved. I had both vacuum tube and BJT power amplifiers, and the tube ones were slightly less affected by the radiation.
What a beautiful cat!Well, I've got my resident Flerken to keep me safe, but unfortunately he has a taste for audio cables from time to time. The nicely textured headphone cables are a favorite, with USB cables coming in a close scond.
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Show me some amplifier schematics, and mark on the diagrams just where ‘imaging’ and ‘soundstage’ are produced. As long as channel separation is decent, there is no effect.yes i understand it comes from the recordings
however in my exprience some amplifiers will help to produce better imaging and soundsatge
You made me LMAO with that.That's not right... the one the comes into my home just wants to phone home;
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They can only effect imaging / soundstaging in negative ways.however in my exprience some amplifiers will help to produce better imaging and soundsatge
Right, so if amp A performs better than amp B then effectively amp A could, or maybe should produce a better soundstage. Which is what i have most likely heard between various amps.They can only effect imaging / soundstaging in negative ways.
If they have issues with channel balance, frequency response, or other performance parameters not being within normal operating range between the L & R channels, then sure there can be a problem there. They should be considered broken. But these things can all be easily measured, there's no magic dust inside the walls of a DAC, preamp, or power amplifier, they are all solved engineering problems for the last 3 or 4 decades.![]()
Right, so if amp A performs better than amp B then effectively amp A could, or maybe should produce a better soundstage. Which is what i have most likely heard between various amps.
Thanks for clarifying