Audiophiles and knowledge?

[Drone/doom]

I used to be active on Reddit, Head fi i really loathe how rude they get when anything they say is challenged. Like how i was flamed that EQ can help speakers/headphones, Then cue the reviewer on Reddit overreacting when someone asked a FR chart.

 

[Hypnotoad]

It's the same at most forums, if you go against the grain, just try saying you think Vinyl is superior on here.

 

[BillG]

Yeah, well... Most people aren't technologically literate when it comes to this stuff. Throw in a bunch of con artists, who are very good at selling pseudoscience, and it just turns into a mess - particularly in light of the number of subjectivist reviewers who write for "respected" publications unwittingly peddling the same.

Fortunately there are a number of us, hosting other forums, who are doing their best to educate the general public. It can still be a bit of an uphill battle, though we continue with our efforts...

 

[Wombat]

It's the same at most forums, if you go against the grain, just try saying you think Vinyl is superior on here.

It depends on what you say it is superior to. Definitely better than wax cylinders and shellac discs.

 

[Drone/doom]

Yeah, well... Most people aren't technologically literate when it comes to this stuff. Throw in a bunch of con artists, who are very good at selling pseudoscience, and it just turns into a mess - particularly in light of the number of subjectivist reviewers who write for "respected" publications unwittingly peddling the same.

Funny you should say that since the thread it happend on the reviewer is always very pro multi driver IEM's and had 2 times refuse DBT's the moment his reviews are questioned?. His mod on his discord/users tried poorly schooling how 10 - 16 mm beats 5 - 9 mm with no clue how IEM bass works, Your filling a small ear chamber.

Stopping using it since i got attacked on giving the ER3XR a rec to someone by the same mod as if there views are facts?.

 

[March Audio]

Audiophiles and knowledge?

contradiction in terms


Thats a joke... honestly

 

[Drone/doom]

Too add more on #5, Yes i was called childish names because the ER4 i used sound's great with 6db starting from either 125Hz or 200Hz. Also its bit rich that reviewer was using FR charts about why some IEM's sound odd but going the extra mile on using PEQ nope too much.

Probably upset that a carefully done ER4S(6db bass) or a very heavily Westone W40 can rival his A+ to S++ tiers.

 

[pwjazz]

just try saying you think Vinyl is superior

A big problem in this hobby is people trying to convince each other that one thing is "superior" to another, which can easily lead to disagreements. I prefer to talk about what I like and make it clear that it's a personal preference. I have no problem with people enjoying vinyl, but I do really if they try to convince me that I shouldn't enjoy my digital collection because vinyl is "better" somehow.

 

[pwjazz]

cue the reviewer on Reddit overreacting when someone asked a FR chart

In my short time in the hobby I've come to the conclusion that frequency response is almost everything. That really rubs some people the wrong way because it contradicts the concensus that expensive stuff is better than cheaper stuff because, you know, "resolution" or whatever.

 

[BDWoody]

Yeah, well... Most people aren't technologically literate when it comes to this stuff. Throw in a bunch of con artists, who are very good at selling pseudoscience, and it just turns into a mess - particularly in light of the number of subjectivist reviewers who write for "respected" publications unwittingly peddling the same.

Fortunately there are a number of us, hosting other forums, who are doing their best to educate the general public. It can still be a bit of an uphill battle, though we continue with our efforts...

It is a jungle out there...but it is always satisfying to see some stumble onto this and maybe a few other sites...like I did...and have the world of audio suddenly make more sense. It's almost as if it's...ummm....science... and not this mystical cult that requires faith and money to reach audio nirvana.

Ignorance being cured is awesome.

 

[Wombat]

It is a jungle out there...but it is always satisfying to see some stumble onto this and maybe a few other sites...like I did...and have the world of audio suddenly make more sense. It's almost as if it's...ummm....science... and not this mystical cult that requires faith and money to reach audio nirvana.

Ignorance being cured is awesome.

Knowledge without understanding is next to useless in discussion.

 

[Drone/doom]

In my short time in the hobby I've come to the conclusion that frequency response is almost everything. That really rubs some people the wrong way because it contradicts the concensus that expensive stuff is better than cheaper stuff because, you know, "resolution" or whatever.

Same with THD because the all ER4's are 0.45% in the bass area and there no mid bass hump. Which explains why the BA sounds cleaner and that DD bass slam that Headfi/Reddit tout is just a error on dynamic drivers that makers exploit.

Funny how many replies i got saying that the ER4's BA can't handle bass without either trying it with good fit or making dumb excuses. Like the ER4SR being lazer flat from 20 - 1000Hz which means no mid bass bloat that warm to basshead gear suffer from.

 

[pwjazz]

Same with THD because the all ER4's are 0.45% in the bass area and there no mid bass hump. Which explains why the BA sounds cleaner and that DD bass slam that Headfi/Reddit tout is just a error on dynamic drivers that makers exploit.

Funny how many replies i got saying that the ER4's BA can't handle bass without either trying it with good fit or making dumb excuses. Like the ER4SR being lazer flat from 20 - 1000Hz which means no mid bass bloat that warm to basshead gear suffer from.

Etymotic does make great sounding stuff. Sadly I can't come to terms with the deep insertion fit.

 

[BDWoody]

Etymotic does make great sounding stuff. Sadly I can't come to terms with the deep insertion fit.

Yeah...'just the tip' is never very satisfying...