Audio Science Review is not listed @ Wikipedia.

[Josq]

Rather than promoting ASR we should promote the knowledge available here, I think.

Wikipedia is still missing articles about the spinorama, Floyd Toole, the (Klippel) near field scanner, etc. And articles like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_recording_and_reproduction and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudspeaker_measurement likely can be vastly improved.

 

[amirm]

That's a good idea.

 

[JSmith]

ASR has a mention here in "Audio Equipment Testing";

The leading objective audio equipment review site is Audio Science Review.

Audio equipment testing - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Rather than promoting ASR we should promote the knowledge available here, I think.

Also agree.


JSmith

 

[amirm]

ASR has a mention here in "Audio Equipment Testing";

Cool! What does it take to make the mention a link to us? "The leading objective audio equipment review site is Audio Science Review"

 

[MalinYamato]

Wiki has become woke and Political Correct, not very reliable as a source anymore.

 

[amirm]

Did a search for us on Wiki and was surprised to see links to us in audiquest page! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AudioQuest

1. "AudioQuest Wind High-end Cable Review". Audio Science Review.

 

[Josq]

Did a search for us on Wiki and was surprised to see links to us in audiquest page! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AudioQuest

1. "AudioQuest Wind High-end Cable Review". Audio Science Review.

Yeah this is where ASR can be really useful on Wikipedia. Company has received a lot of awards, but Wikipedia needs to be neutral and take into account all relevant sources. And, thanks to objective measurements, ASR is a relevant source that says not all is well with company products.

 

[JSmith]

Did a search for us on Wiki and was surprised to see links to us in audioquest page!

Well... that was rather unexpected!

What does it take to make the mention a link to us?

I think it is just a matter of a registered user making an alteration and it being approved by Wiki mods, will look into it further for you.


JSmith

 

[mhardy6647]

Wiki has become woke and Political Correct, not very reliable as a source anymore.

I don't think either of those are is an impediment to documenting stuff about modern quantitative assessment of audio reproduction components.

 

[pozz]

Wiki has become woke and Political Correct, not very reliable as a source anymore.

The issue is not political outlook but that what Wikipedia recognizes as evidence is published books, articles, etc., following a more scholarly standard. However ASR is mostly mentioned on fora and blogs, which are deemed informal and therefore not acceptable or reliable sources.

This is the talk page I started. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Suonii180#Deletion_of_Audio_Science_Review

Amir, frankly, has enough of a personal history to merit his own Wiki entry (for example the Emmy technical awards, or his Unix book). That doesn't lend any credence to the ASR entry, however, since it's considered separate.

 

[pozz]

The admin got back to me.

Hi! I don't think the Wall Street Journal article contributes much to the notability of Audio Science Review as the quoted statement only mentions it in passing and does not provide in-depth coverage of the website.
Also most YouTube videos should not be used as references as per WP:RSPYT. Blogs are also often self-published sources and most of the time they shouldn't be used as sources as per WP:SELFPUBLISH.

Looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability "notability" is not determined by importance, but by verifiability through secondary sources, and what we have isn't enough.

 

[Audiofire]

There seems to have been a wiki article on ASR at some point:

Weird Google search result regarding ASR

Check this out - it appears to be a Wikipedia result, but the word "pseudo" somehow got added to the search result (it isn't in the article): Audio Science Review is a pseudoscience-based discussion forum publishing independent reviews of audio equipment such as loudspeakers, amplifiers, and...

www.audiosciencereview.com

@amirm how would you feel about getting a wiki page? There is an exactly analogous situation here with Dave. He also has a YouTube channel for his forum:

David L. Jones (video blogger) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I'm on Wikipedia - Page 1

I'm on Wikipedia - Page 1

www.eevblog.com

Microsoft's article is a source on Amir Majidimehr, General Manager, Windows Digital Media Division, so I guess Amir is not gonna object:

Q&A: Digital Directions from New Windows Digital Media G.M. - Stories

As Microsoft and Artisan films unveil a new high-definition DVD created with Windows Media 9 Series technology, the new general manager of Microsoft's Windows Digital Media Division, Amir Majidimehr, surveys the state of the digital arts and his division's strategy.

news.microsoft.com

 

[Doodski]

There seems to have been a wiki article on ASR at some point:

Weird Google search result regarding ASR

Check this out - it appears to be a Wikipedia result, but the word "pseudo" somehow got added to the search result (it isn't in the article): Audio Science Review is a pseudoscience-based discussion forum publishing independent reviews of audio equipment such as loudspeakers, amplifiers, and...

www.audiosciencereview.com

@amirm how would you feel about getting a wiki page? There is an exactly analogous situation here with Dave. He also has a YouTube channel for his forum:

David L. Jones (video blogger) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I'm on Wikipedia - Page 1

I'm on Wikipedia - Page 1

www.eevblog.com

Microsoft's article is a source on Amir Majidimehr, General Manager, Windows Digital Media Division, so I guess Amir is not gonna object:

Q&A: Digital Directions from New Windows Digital Media G.M. - Stories

As Microsoft and Artisan films unveil a new high-definition DVD created with Windows Media 9 Series technology, the new general manager of Microsoft's Windows Digital Media Division, Amir Majidimehr, surveys the state of the digital arts and his division's strategy.

news.microsoft.com

There was a Wiki page on ASR. It was hacked by pricks a few times and then after ~ a year or so Wikipedia closed the page because there are no publicized references to it. They said it seemed like a infomercial or something like that.

 

[Audiofire]

There was a Wiki page on ASR. It was hacked by pricks a few times and then after ~ a year or so Wikipedia closed the page because there are no publicized references to it. They said it seemed like a infomercial or something like that.

Incidentally, there are publicized references to the notable achievements Amir has made to Windows media technology, and making popular audio product reviews as well as exposing audiophile BS. This makes him a candidate for a wiki page, even if he does object:

Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Amir M | madronadigital

www.madronadigital.com

https://www.edn.com/voices-microsofts-amir-majidimehr-a-window-to-the-world-of-digital-media/

Can the PS3 Save Sony?

The company that created the transistor radio and the Walkman is at the precipice. If Sony's new $600 console doesn't blow gamers away, it may be time to say sayonara.

www.frankrose.com

Interview | Amir Majidimehr, Audiophile Industry Disruptor

In this standalone episode I’m speaking with Amir Majidimehr. Amir is an audiophile, but he has a unique approach to the hobby that’s literally disrupting the industry. He’s basically introduced measurement, and what he calls Objectivism, into this very sensitive audiophile world that prizes...

danielmiessler.com

 

[Doodski]

Incidentally, there are publicized references to the notable achievements Amir has made to both Windows media technology, and making popular audio product reviews as well as exposing audiophile BS. This makes him a candidate for a wiki page, even if he does object:

Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Amir M | madronadigital

www.madronadigital.com

https://www.edn.com/voices-microsofts-amir-majidimehr-a-window-to-the-world-of-digital-media/

Can the PS3 Save Sony?

The company that created the transistor radio and the Walkman is at the precipice. If Sony's new $600 console doesn't blow gamers away, it may be time to say sayonara.

www.frankrose.com

Interview | Amir Majidimehr, Audiophile Industry Disruptor

In this standalone episode I’m speaking with Amir Majidimehr. Amir is an audiophile, but he has a unique approach to the hobby that’s literally disrupting the industry. He’s basically introduced measurement, and what he calls Objectivism, into this very sensitive audiophile world that prizes...

danielmiessler.com

Yes, all true and relevant although they said it was not relevant and was advertising of sorts. The admin of Wiki was very sticky about it. You wanna give it another go? I'm up for it if I can find my notes or another peep has updated notes. What ASR needs is a late night TV show to interview of @amirm it sounds outlandish but I've seen it before with a electronic website owner from Kelowna BC with his website called Sphere Research. It used to be a amazing website of parts and equipment but that has dissolved a lot.

Sphere's Used Electronic Test Equipment

Sphere's Canadian test equipment site contains an extensive inventory of new and used electronic test equipment, service parts, bargains, and electronics. Very useful for Canadian companies, schools, and experimenters that need access to sophisticated, low cost electronics. Located in West...

www.sphere.bc.ca

 

[amirm]

I don't think it is worth the effort. It is not like someone will research us on Wiki. In the olden days, we didn't have as much reach so having a link from Wiki would have been good. But today, it won't matter much.

We can revisit when we have more external references.

As to doing one me, I don't think I need a page there. Appreciate the suggestion anyway.

 

[Audiofire]

Amir mentioned in the Joe N Tell interview that he spent a lot of time on writing a book once, kind of interesting to find the title and it must be this one:
"Amir Majidimehr is Senior Director of Engineering at Sony Microsystems, San Jose, California where he is in charge of workstation development. Previously, as an engineer in the UNIX Development Group at Gould, Inc., he wrote many device drivers and extensively rewrote major portions of BSD and System V operating systems. He has taught many classes in UNIX internals and performance tuning."

Amazon.com

www.amazon.com

 

[amirm]

That is it.

 

[amirm]

Hey you all. How about we take another shot at creating a Wiki page?

I am thinking of a short, matter of fact page about what we do. There are now Wiki pages that link to us (MQA, Tidal, Schiit). I have my AES paper. Sean Olive's headphone paper refers to ASR. As does the AES paper on 5128 headphone fixture.

Something along the lines of:

"Audio Science Review (ASR) is a website that has reviews of audio equipment and software plus discussion forum. Reviews are based on objective measurements and cover amplifiers, dacs, speakers, phono stages, etc..." As of XYZ date, there are XXXX reviews published. The site also includes discussions of underlying research and engineering of audio products and sound reproduction in general. ASR was founded by Amir Majidimehr (we can link to my LinkedIn page).

We don't need the publicity but it irks me that there is nothing there.

What say you?

 

[BDWoody]

Excellent.