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My set, with the carbon fiber headbands, comes out at 666g.
Each of the closed cups are 50g.
Each of the closed cups are 50g.
Crinacle's measurements show [much] more variance. At the conference I only had time for quick analysis. After listening I pulled up the tests by crinacle w/the gras_43ag-7_harman_over-ear_2018 for both.The LCD-XC and LCD-2 Closed are surprisingly similar in frequency response:
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If anything jumps out, then it's the less severe 4.5k dip of the LCD-2
Mine also weighs 666 grams with the carbon fiber headband. Weight with the standard steel headband was 685 grams. I did not buy the headband to save weight though (good thing because I would have been very disappointed with saving 19 grams) I just wanted the more cohesive look of the matching CF headband. An extra 1.5 lbs on my large head is no big deal for me. Even my carbon fiber full face Bell motorcycle helmet weighs 1450 grams, so I barely notice the LCD-XC on my head. If the weight does not bother you, they are supremely comfortable.My set, with the carbon fiber headbands, comes out at 666g.
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Each of the closed cups are 50g.
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Neither one of those measurements you posted are applicable to the current models. The 2021 versions of both models wear the updated (and better measuring) pads. Also with the LCD-XC there are additional changes to the magnet (fazor) structure as well. Over on head-fi there is an extensive post/thread about the magnet and pad changes, as well as the serial numbers that indicate weather you have a 2021 X/XC or previous model.Crinacle's measurements show [much] more variance. At the conference I only had time for quick analysis. After listening I pulled up the tests by crinacle w/the gras_43ag-7_harman_over-ear_2018 for both.
https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq/tree/master/results/crinacle/gras_43ag-7_harman_over-ear_2018/Audeze LCD-XC
https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq/tree/master/results/crinacle/gras_43ag-7_harman_over-ear_2018/Audeze LCD-2 Closed Back
In this comparison i think the elevated midbass of the XC, the deeper dip in lower midrange, and elevated 1-2K was heard that I was responding to. And the sharp rolloff of lowest bass vs the more subtle rolloff and higher shelf level of the 2 Closed may also have been what I was responding to (possibly a thicker slower bass with more ringing too in the 2 Closed? which I like). And the greater differential and peaks the comparo of these tests in the treble vs Oratory's better llustrates what my ears heard.
I listened and compared back and forth twice and formed a judgement of what I heard, before I pulled up these plots, so wasn't influenced by what I thought I should be hearing before actually hearing it.
They absolutely deserve kudos for providing headphones to you for testing. Great Audeze!Conclusions
Audeze is one of only two companies providing headphones to me for testing. For this alone, they deserve many kudos (as well as waiting some 6 months for me to test this headphone).
I did a comparison for Sennheiser HD820 Tour 2022They absolutely deserve kudos for providing headphones to you for testing. Great Audeze!
I was listening to the these headphones this week, and AB-compared them with Sennheiser HD 820. I found the sound of the LCD-XC to be much better, but the comfort of the HD 820 is much better. Knowing this, it is (in my opinion) a little bit hard to buy any of them.
I responded to you over on Head-fi with this message below. Some people over there get their panties all bunched up when EQ is mentioned, so I like to poke them a little.Hey HP lovers,
I am a most satisfied LCD-X 2021 owner and use those cans for both studio work/play and personal leisure for hours each day. However I can't track with them obviously being open backed. So the next logical move for me was the LCD-XC 2021 which I have just pulled the trigger on! I'm chomping at the bit to say the least!
I was wondering if anyone else has used these for tracking and can speak on that? I'm finding surprisingly little input about that type of usage in various forums.
Anyway I'll be wanting to try out EQ profiles if anyone would like to share theirs, it would be much appreciated. Also appreciated would be FR measurements. I already have ASR's and have inputted them into REW to try to get a Harman curve compensated graph to chart my EQ from. I'm new to that process and could use the help anyone would want to give me as I'm not sure if I'm doing it right.
I'll be breaking my teeth on this bit I'm chomping on!
Blessings,
-J
I'm pretty happy with the mids and treble, and just add a bass shelf:Hey HP lovers,
I am a most satisfied LCD-X 2021 owner and use those cans for both studio work/play and personal leisure for hours each day. However I can't track with them obviously being open backed. So the next logical move for me was the LCD-XC 2021 which I have just pulled the trigger on! I'm chomping at the bit to say the least!
I was wondering if anyone else has used these for tracking and can speak on that? I'm finding surprisingly little input about that type of usage in various forums.
Anyway I'll be wanting to try out EQ profiles if anyone would like to share theirs, it would be much appreciated. Also appreciated would be FR measurements. I already have ASR's and have inputted them into REW to try to get a Harman curve compensated graph to chart my EQ from. I'm new to that process and could use the help anyone would want to give me as I'm not sure if I'm doing it right.
I'll be breaking my teeth on this bit I'm chomping on!
Blessings,
-J
Here is my LCD-XC 2021 FR Graph from Audeze:Hey HP lovers,
I am a most satisfied LCD-X 2021 owner and use those cans for both studio work/play and personal leisure for hours each day. However I can't track with them obviously being open backed. So the next logical move for me was the LCD-XC 2021 which I have just pulled the trigger on! I'm chomping at the bit to say the least!
I was wondering if anyone else has used these for tracking and can speak on that? I'm finding surprisingly little input about that type of usage in various forums.
Anyway I'll be wanting to try out EQ profiles if anyone would like to share theirs, it would be much appreciated. Also appreciated would be FR measurements. I already have ASR's and have inputted them into REW to try to get a Harman curve compensated graph to chart my EQ from. I'm new to that process and could use the help anyone would want to give me as I'm not sure if I'm doing it right.
I'll be breaking my teeth on this bit I'm chomping on!
Blessings,
-J
Seems like you were 'lucky' they were out of stock on the DCA Aeon 2 Noire. The Audeze sound and DCA are so very different for sure. The LCD-XC is so much more dynamic, with a good amount of weight to the notes, yet still delicate enough to convey as much detail as required by the recording. While the LCD-XC is my favorite headphone (full stop) at any price, I am not trying to talk trash about DCA. To my ears though, side by side all the DCA headphones sound compressed ,relatively speaking, but if someone likes it they like it. To my ears, the LCD-XC is better than anything that DCA makes, including the Stealth (yes I have tried it). I gotta say though, as nice as the LCD-XC is, that DCA Stealth is the most beautiful, comfortable, well constructed, headphone on the planet to my eyes.I went out to demo the DCA Aeon 2 Noire today. I like the tuning out of the box. Unlike my original Aeon closed, which I had to EQ so i can enjoy listening to a variety of genres in my collection of Music. Unfortunately, there is no stock available and pre-order will take weeks. The guy in the shop(in Singapore) suggested I try the XC. It was not my intention because 1.) it's heavy, 2.) bulky and 3.)more expensive than the Aeon 2 Noire. I have not even consider it on my want list. (Would have love to demo the Stealth. However, the only headphone shop that carries DCA headphones don't have a demo unit of Stealth)
However, I have read this review and aware that it's very close to Harman curve and has a stunningly low distortion. Having a lot of time on hand while waiting for my wife to finish shopping I gave it a listen. I was using my old AK240SS player as source. Soon as i played the first track on my play list, it immediately put a smile on my face. I was not expecting it.
Everything is crystal clear, but what got me is the depth it presented the music compared to Aeon 2 Noire. It's like Aeon 2 Noire reveals all details in 2D when the XC shows everything in 3D. Also the deepness in bass is strikingly different. In short XC is fuller makes me think of HE-6 on a closed-back. I had to listen to my playlist of 9 - 10 songs twice. I was enjoying listening especially on the 2nd pass of the playlist that I just stop listening critically while each track is playing and just let it play from start to finish.
As I finished the demo for XC, I checked the clock, it took me almost 40 minutes with the headphone on my head. Then, I realized I never had any hotspot nor any part of my head touching the padding felt discomfort despite the weight. On my Aeon closed, I will feel a slight discomfort in about 10 minutes of wearing it especially on the top area of my head where the center of the pad rest. I need to slightly pull the pad upward and release to get instant relief from the pressure/discomfort. I've gotten used to it after years of using Aeon that I liken it to an itch in my head that needs a quick scratch. Same goes with the Aeon 2 Noire. Maybe the XC's pad shape fits perfectly on top of my head that it distribute weight evenly. The extra weight only serves to let me know the XC is heavier than Aeon but not to a point that bothers me nor gives me a neck fatigue.
As you may have guessed by now, I was carrying the XC when i returned home. I appreciate the guy slashing a couple hundred bucks from XC's SRP in Singapore. As I am writing this post I'm listening/enjoying my new XC with Element-I streaming from a Roon Server. Currently using Amir's EQ/correction. Thanks for that @amirm. Just enjoying every song playing now. Even without EQ the sound is still enjoyable.
I always like how Audeze headphones sound fuller compared to most headphones especially on the bass. My experience on their headphones (mostly the old models) is that there is always something missing on the upper mids to treble due to dips on that region which is common on their tuning. Combined their house tuning, prize, bulk and weight kept me away from their full-sized headphones all these years.Seems like you were 'lucky' they were out of stock on the DCA Aeon 2 Noire. The Audeze sound and DCA are so very different for sure. The LCD-XC is so much more dynamic, with a good amount of weight to the notes, yet still delicate enough to convey as much detail as required by the recording. While the LCD-XC is my favorite headphone (full stop) at any price, I am not trying to talk trash about DCA. To my ears though, side by side all the DCA headphones sound compressed ,relatively speaking, but if someone likes it they like it. To my ears, the LCD-XC is better than anything that DCA makes, including the Stealth (yes I have tried it). I gotta say though, as nice as the LCD-XC is, that DCA Stealth is the most beautiful, comfortable, well constructed, headphone on the planet to my eyes.
@04gto Wow, I'm happy to hear someone say that the XC is their favorite headphone. So often it is overshadowed by the X. I have less than a month with my new XC and I love it of course! I know it's not fair to compare open backed vs. closed back but I can't help compare it to the X. They have more differences than one might think before hearing them side by side.Seems like you were 'lucky' they were out of stock on the DCA Aeon 2 Noire. The Audeze sound and DCA are so very different for sure. The LCD-XC is so much more dynamic, with a good amount of weight to the notes, yet still delicate enough to convey as much detail as required by the recording. While the LCD-XC is my favorite headphone (full stop) at any price, I am not trying to talk trash about DCA. To my ears though, side by side all the DCA headphones sound compressed ,relatively speaking, but if someone likes it they like it. To my ears, the LCD-XC is better than anything that DCA makes, including the Stealth (yes I have tried it). I gotta say though, as nice as the LCD-XC is, that DCA Stealth is the most beautiful, comfortable, well constructed, headphone on the planet to my eyes.