As far as I am aware there is only one NFS in the UK.
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My hope is that we'll see the NFS improve some of their quirks without compromising everything good about them (lots of dynamic range, low compression and distortion, etc).
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New ATC sub
Quite a bit over my budget, though it would be interesting to see a test (including below 20Hz).
A monitor doesn't give the truth !
Same range as REL. Likely home version (if made) will match REL 15" price of $10000
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They have some new centre channel monitors available too.
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SCM105AC PRO - ATC Loudspeakers
SCM105AC Pro 3-WAY ACTIVE MID-FIELD CENTRE CHANNEL The SCM105AC has been designed specifically as a centre channel monitor, with reduced cabinet height, to ease fitment in crowded control rooms. It is based upon the SCM110A Pro mid-field monitor and can partner a range of ATC 3-way mid-field...
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It's seems to be the standard price$7k for a single 15" powered sub with no dsp. Guess that's ATC for ya
I wonder what would Neumann's 15 inch would cost if they had one
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ATC subs have always seemed wildly overpriced to me. This one is 15" but only has a 300 W amplifier.
I own and like their SCM40 speakers though, so not bashing on the brand in general.
The SCM40s are great speakers, and I see no reason to swap them for something else any time soon, but they do need subwoofers for a truly full-range sound. But with a pair of subwoofers, there's nothing left in an audio recording that these speakers can't reveal.
I would love to hear ATC subwoofers in my system, but the price is definitely too high for my liking, especially as I prefer having at least two subwoofers in my system.
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The SCM40s are great speakers, and I see no reason to swap them for something else any time soon, but they do need subwoofers for a truly full-range sound. But with a pair of subwoofers, there's nothing left in an audio recording that these speakers can't reveal.
I would love to hear ATC subwoofers in my system, but the price is definitely too high for my liking, especially as I prefer having at least two subwoofers in my system.
You'll note from my signature that I do have a subwoofer, although actually I've not had a speakers long and have been too busy to go through the process of getting the sub properly integrated and so am listening to the SCM40s full-range right now. These are speakers I'd heard and many times and liked before so snapped them up when a pair became available locally to be at a sensible price. No regrets
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Ultrasonic
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With the purchase of the Geithain RL 901K speakers, you get a pair of 16-inch subwoofers almost for free...
With massive downsides vs separate subwoofers that you could place independently in the room, but that's a discussion for another thread/time.
You'll note from my signature that I do have a subwoofer, although actually I've not had a speakers long and have been too busy to go through the process of getting the sub properly integrated and so am listening to the SCM40s full-range right now. These are speakers I'd heard and many times and liked before so snapped them up when a pair became available locally to be at a sensible price. No regrets
Even though I have two subwoofers in my system, I still let the SCM40s play their "full-range", and the two REL S/510 subwoofers only take over the bass duties below the natural roll-off of the main speakers. I have them set up in a stereo configuration, and the result is a completely seamless integration as if the SCM40s were just more bass-capable on their own. This is the most transparent and seamless integration of subwoofers I have ever achieved in my system, as the subwoofers never reveal themselves as separate speakers.
I think you should be able to accomplish this with way less expensive subwoofers than the ones I use. My suggestion is that you try using a low crossover point and let your SCM40s play their full range, as they already have a very low level of distortion all the way down in the bass range, and therefore do not really require a highpass filter, at least not for that reason alone.
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Ultrasonic
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I will indeed do lots of experimenting with different options. I expect that I'll end up with a higher crossover though, to allow my corner-located subwoofer to overcome a room-induced dip in the bass-response at around 80 Hz I'm assuming I'll see with the SCM40s like every other speaker. What I will say though is that the 37 Hz mode in my room somewhat suits the natural roll-off of the SCM40s though, so without a sub they're better than you might guess otherwise.
How inexpensive!
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It is far from being the same thing.
The Genelec subwoofer provides seven inputs and seven outputs, all of which are processed internally via its built-in ADC, DAC inside. Through the GLM, the subwoofer can apply phase alignment, timing correction and frequency correction to every connected output channel.
In practice, this makes the Genelec subwoofer a highly capable multichannel DSP platform, not merely a low frequency driver with an amplifier. A significant portion of the cost is going to this high end DSP functionality rather than to the driver and amplifier alone.
In contrast, the ATC subwoofer offers only two inputs and two outputs. It contains no internal ADC or DAC, provides no DSP processing, and has no equivalent to Genelec’s GLM network integration.
Appears to be a rearranged SCM110. That layout is not my favorite.They have some new centre channel monitors available too.
SCM105AC PRO - ATC Loudspeakers
SCM105AC Pro 3-WAY ACTIVE MID-FIELD CENTRE CHANNEL The SCM105AC has been designed specifically as a centre channel monitor, with reduced cabinet height, to ease fitment in crowded control rooms. It is based upon the SCM110A Pro mid-field monitor and can partner a range of ATC 3-way mid-field...
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