The mids were just strange. My guess is that it's the super wide cabinet, but I can't confirm that for certain.
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Most likely a cause of the mid/tweeter in the middle of the woofers with a crossover of 380Hz. In the near field this will certainly cause comb filtering issues. Others have noted similar descriptions of speakers with similar layouts/crossover points.
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I've read other not so positive reviews about a similar layout from another famous brand ...
Why do companies still make this type of design if it's not as popular as other designs ?
Why do companies still make this type of design if it's not as popular as other designs ?
What a load of *#%€$¥£&@!Something a little more meaningful
This was my other thought, given what one woofer does in that config (see the horizontal polar measurements for the kh310). It may be less severe on the SCM25A than the KH310 given the crossover point is the better part of an octave lower (380hz vs 650hz) than on the 45.
ATC is a brand at this point I'd only bother with the 25mk2s, the 50s, the 100s, and the 110s in the right setup. I don't much care for the 150s or the 200s or 300s, nor the 45s. The 2 ways... I've never heard any, though I'd like to.
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Lol
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That review is completely useless. It's no better than any other flowery hi-fi magazine prose.
It's still interesting that the reviewer finds tonal consistency great at any level, and even "scary good" in and outside the sweet spot wherever he is in the room. That may be something to chew on for the people in this thread concerned about theoretical directivity problems.
As expected, he could push them close to hearing-destroying levels without hearing any distortion.
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Why do they have 2 completely different cabinet designs for SCM300?
Which one should sound and measure better ?
Which one should sound and measure better ?
The one that is soffit mounted in a completely treated room.
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those description I heard something similar or even exact wording from the same channel on a few random reviews of focal evo and the Presonus pro6... he even can't hear distortion at 90db range of the Focal alpha 50evo.. that's the problem of these sort of reviews, basically nothing bad will come out from stuffs they were sent for review to avoid breaking the connection from the vendor.. It could burry what is truely performing from other crappy stuffs.It's still interesting that the reviewer finds tonal consistency great at any level, and even "scary good" in and outside the sweet spot wherever he is in the room. That may be something to chew on for the people in this thread concerned about theoretical directivity problems.
As expected, he could push them close to hearing-destroying levels without hearing any distortion.
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Naw, every speaker ever has reviewers saying the exact same things about that speaker. It's all meaningless to me now.It's still interesting that the reviewer finds tonal consistency great at any level, and even "scary good" in and outside the sweet spot wherever he is in the room. That may be something to chew on for the people in this thread concerned about theoretical directivity problems.
As expected, he could push them close to hearing-destroying levels without hearing any distortion.
No trying to be offensive, but did you ever do in room measurements for both? I am curious how much the top end is a result from the new tweeter (the titny WG? or linearity or even rolling off), or could it be some sort of new toy bias thing kicking in.
Whenever I bought some new toys it usually instantly feels like something have improved over the old toys, just to realise that it didn't differ that much after some time
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According to their website, the tower version is for home use, the other for pro. The Pro has a different tweeter, a 34mm soft dome vs 25mm in the home hifi 300 SLT(ower).
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I'd probably still would have bought the pro version for home use
Sorry, no measurements - just a comparison. My bet is it's because the D26NC56 in the Mk1 is just not a very good tweeter. It has a pretty high Fs (about 1/2 the crossover frequency, which is a high 3.5khz), and its frequency response is... Not great, I'd say. It dips right around where the crossover is on these speakers.
I don't know if I've ever seen any bare driver measures of the SH25-76, but I would hazard a guess that it has a significantly lower Fs and much higher xmax given it's used in 2 ways that cross with an LR2 around 2.5khz and it has the nifty double suspension.
If anybody's got some newer ATCs and wants to pull the tweeter for some bare driver measurements, please do!
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