ErinPraline
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I'm not surprised at the performance of this device. IMO DAPs are basically toys. Honestly I think you're better off buying an old iPod off ebay or something and modding it.
People still pay data charges?Less data charges?
In the UK at least most tariffs have data caps, your monthly tariff gives you a fixed data amount, over which the per GB charges are, shall we say, extortionate. So if you want to listen with hi-res you either pay through the nose for a high data package, which some months you may not use, or avoid it entirely and use a DAP, which you can of course also plug straight into your car hifi and dedicate your phone to Sat-Nav duties.People still pay data charges?
In the UK at least most tariffs have data caps, your monthly tariff gives you a fixed data amount, over which the per GB charges are, shall we say, extortionate. So if you want to listen with hi-res you either pay through the nose for a high data package, which some months you may not use, or avoid it entirely and use a DAP, which you can of course also plug straight into your car hifi and dedicate your phone to Sat-Nav duties.
Then read the fine print. Many providers throttle data to 32 or 64 kbps once you reach a certain usage level.Are you sure?, for £10/month you can get unlimited calls/messages/data as this is what a mates kid is using, if you're paying for data then I think it's time to change your provider/network.
Who's doing unlimited data for £10/month? Calls and texts, yup, data, no way.Are you sure?, for £10/month you can get unlimited calls/messages/data as this is what a mates kid is using, if you're paying for data then I think it's time to change your provider/network.
Who's doing unlimited data for £10/month? Calls and texts, yup, data, no way.
E.g. £36/month on Vodafone
Only cheap ones are fly by night VMNO's, no thanks, no antispam, no guarantees, no customer service, no conf calling, no esims/clones for smart watches.
So, you don't use mobile data, because you don't leave the house and use Wi-Fi. The point is that, for people *who use data* out of the house, data caps are a thing as are data charges.EE for myself, think I pay £8/month but I never leave the house so the data add on is pretty pointless for myself, been with them for 15 years since they started as well as using their unlimited EE broadband at 40Mbps for £12/month
So, you don't use mobile data, because you don't leave the house and use Wi-Fi. The point is that, for people *who use data* out of the house, data caps are a thing as are data charges.
"Your mates kid" doesn't appear to have told you who the network provider is or how much they are paying. For *most* people a VMNO PAYG SIM is not something they want as it doesn't have the range of features most people want. Not forgetting that huge numbers of people want to get their handset on their contract. For *most* people Data Limits and Caps are the norm. *Most* people are customers of the 'Big Three' and aren't going to change their provider simply to be able to listen to high quality streaming, a DAP is a simple and effective alternative. It also works when you are out of range of a 4/5g signal.Yes data caps can be a “thing” as you say but totally unlimited data without caps is also a “thing” and is available for very little money, I have it, a mates kid has it.
Anyway this “pedantry” is polluting the thread, I’m out
I agree. I suppose an appropriate name for these devices today would be "Sauropods". It's strange to see that they are still around.I’ll admit I’m clearly out of the loop on this one. I’ve just never found myself needing a device like that. Back in the day, I’d load my 320 kbps MP3s onto a clip-on MP3 player and head out. Before that, it was a trusty Panasonic CD player. Digital audio players are a part of the hobby I’ve never really explored - or felt the need to, to be honest.
Maybe you don't live where there is spotty to poor 4/5g coverage? Maybe you don't have a personally curated library of several thousand albums? Maybe you are well off enough to not care about data charges? Maybe you don't use the camera in your phone while listening to music on wired headphones? There are dozens of reasons not to use a phone for music playback. Google AI suggests that the portable media player market, including MP3 players, is projected to grow from $26.42 billion in 2024 to $28.3 billion in 2025, a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 7.1%I agree. I suppose an appropriate name for these devices today would be "Sauropods". It's strange to see that they are still around.
"Your mates kid" doesn't appear to have told you who the network provider is or how much they are paying. For
Some adults need a reliable phone network with full support, coverage, and services, children not so much.
Yes, maybe. But I just don't see the point of an expensive dedicated device, when a phone (with perhaps a dongle) can do the same job, and most people have the phone already anyway. If you live in a remote area you can just store music files on the phone or use the "download to device" function of your music streaming service. And frankly, buying a $1500 player because you are wary of data charges seems insane. (I could possibly see the point of getting a dirt cheap device to use when going to the beach or exercising and you don't want to risk your phone getting destroyed or stolen.)Maybe you don't live where there is spotty to poor 4/5g coverage? Maybe you don't have a personally curated library of several thousand albums? Maybe you are well off enough to not care about data charges? Maybe you don't use the camera in your phone while listening to music on wired headphones? There are dozens of reasons not to use a phone for music playback. Google AI suggests that the portable media player market, including MP3 players, is projected to grow from $26.42 billion in 2024 to $28.3 billion in 2025, a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 7.1%