ASR/amirm has opened my eyes.

[afinepoint]

Oh, then I wouldn't be too worried about the quality of the amplifier. I'd be more worried about the scathing treble and uneven directivity. Hopefully you can fix that with some EQ.

Sound fine to me and that's being driven with a pro 1500W amp. Excellent depth. Clear highs and mids. Nice spatial separation. No eq needed. I love them. Couldn't afford the Triton Reference but they are quite big.

Nothing but glowing reviews. I couldn't find a single professional criticism. I'm sure there are those who could find faults with a Bentley. These aren't the Bentley of loudspeakers but all understand my point.

As amir said hearing is unique to the individual. That being said . . .

 

[Koeitje]

Sound fine to me and that's being driven with a pro 1500W amp. Excellent depth. Clear highs and mids. Nice spatial separation. No eq needed. I love them. Couldn't afford the Triton Reference but they are quite big.

Nothing but glowing reviews. I couldn't find a single professional criticism. I'm sure there are those who could find faults with a Bentley. These aren't the Bentley of loudspeakers but all understand my point.

As amir said hearing is unique to the individual. That being said . . .

Yeah, if you are a little bit older you might simply not hear the scathing brightness of them (their faults can be easily found in the Stereophile review). Those kind of things are vary from person to person. Not my cup of tea, I prefer a more neutral/accurate loudspeaker.

 

[afinepoint]

Yeah, if you are a little bit older you might simply not hear the scathing brightness of them (their faults can be easily found in the Stereophile review). Those kind of things are vary from person to person. Not my cup of tea, I prefer a more neutral/accurate loudspeaker.

No need to be insulting. You have no idea of my age. Due to the nature of my job my hearing is checked annually. No loss. Is yours? So you found one review that is negative. Did you really? Have YOU heard them?

You are making a decision based on another's ears? Do you buy cars based on what others say? Or drive it yourself. You sound like someone young wanting to display greater knowledge than you possess. Look up the Dunning Kruger effect to understand what I'm speaking of.

I'm sorry but I have to dismiss your opinion since it's not even your own. Audition a pair then return with more mature and objective comments. Further this post is not about loudspeaker reviews. I don't mean to be harsh but really.

No need to reply. I've had a good chuckle already.

 

[JSmith]

You have no idea of my age.

64 maybe? It's on your profile as that anyway.

I don't think any insult was intended, but it can be confronting to hear negative things about ones choice of speakers for sure.

scathing brightness

That is maybe going a bit far... certainly there is room for improvement in the higher frequencies;

GoldenEar Technology Triton One.R loudspeaker Measurements | Stereophile.com

Sidebar 3: Measurements I used DRA Labs' MLSSA system and a calibrated DPA 4006 microphone to measure the GoldenEar Triton One.R's frequency response in the farfield, and an Earthworks QTC-40 mike for the nearfield responses. I removed the loudspeaker's front and side grilles for the nearfield...

www.stereophile.com

JSmith

 

[voodooless]

64 maybe? It's on your profile as that anyway.

Then this:

Due to the nature of my job my hearing is checked annually. No loss.

Is highly unlikely.

Regardless, the HF should be fixable with some EQ, should one desire. The off-axis is a bit ragged, but otherwise not too bad. It’s all quite high Q, so should not be very noticeable.

 

[JustJones]

Impossible that someone age 64 hearing has not degraded unless they're now implanting bionic ears. To claim otherwise is laughable. This guy is now bordering on trolling.

 

[afinepoint]

64 maybe? It's on your profile as that anyway.

I don't think any insult was intended, but it can be confronting to hear negative things about ones choice of speakers for sure.

That is maybe going a bit far... certainly there is room for improvement in the higher frequencies;

GoldenEar Technology Triton One.R loudspeaker Measurements | Stereophile.com

Sidebar 3: Measurements I used DRA Labs' MLSSA system and a calibrated DPA 4006 microphone to measure the GoldenEar Triton One.R's frequency response in the farfield, and an Earthworks QTC-40 mike for the nearfield responses. I removed the loudspeaker's front and side grilles for the nearfield...

www.stereophile.com

JSmith

I see nothing but positive. But we can nit pick anything. There is no perfect loudspeaker.

True one can become defensive. I concede that point. But coming to a conclusion based on another's opinion? That's how things work here. Again as amir has stressed sonic beauty is in the ear of the beholder. Ok he didn't really say that but has stated quite clearly it's all person preference. What sounds good to you might grate in my ears. True?

 

[afinepoint]

Then this:

Is highly unlikely.

Regardless, the HF should be fixable with some EQ, should one desire. The off-axis is a bit ragged, but otherwise not too bad. It’s all quite high Q, so should not be very noticeable.

How could you possibly know? Have you seen my aural traces? I also don't need glasses. Are you telling me I do because you believe I should? But I will admit my hear is not perfect. Has it degraded of course. Significantly no. Guys stop being silly. You know what I meant.

Come on. Just because one has preconceived notions and prejudices doesn't make them right.

Guys reread the title of this post.

The loudspeakers are fine. Nuances and performance are affected by many things. You know that. Again have YOU heard them.

 

[afinepoint]

Impossible that someone age 64 hearing has not degraded unless they're now implanting bionic ears. To claim otherwise is laughable. This guy is now bordering on trolling.

Have you seen my aural traces? Don't listen to everything you believe. Is my hearing perfect? Of course not. Has it degraded of course it has. Significany no. Perhaps I phrased it poorly but you know what I meant. Remember it's my post. Who's the one really trolling? Grow up.

 

[JustJones]

I don't need to see your aural traces. OK you have extra super hearing and have managed to somehow elude natural degradation of human hearing as we age. I only believe the science. I'll move along

 

[afinepoint]

Can we get back to civility and move on?

 

[afinepoint]

I don't need to see your aural traces. OK you have extra super hearing and have managed to somehow elude natural degradation of human hearing as we age. I only believe the science. I'll move along

Reread my relies. I clarified my comments. Of course you wouldn't want see my traces you stubbonly want to believe what you want to believe. Those traces are science in action. Of course your moving on. It's called running away. Be mature. Stop being defensive. Stop trolling. Stop acting the ass.

 

[JustJones]

Reread my relies. I clarified my comments. Stop acting the ass.

Yeah, I see now you claim to have normal hearing for someone over age 60.

 

[afinepoint]

Sheesh. Allow me to kindly withdraw my comment that has been purposely misconstrued and has high jacked this thread. Yes. Yes Yes My hearing has degraded. Significant no. SCIENTIFICALLY the graphs show very minor hearing losses. My point which was admittedly poorly made is the degradation is not significant. Little since first measured in my thirties. I should have phrased it such. My statement was sweeping. Apologies. Can we now move on?

 

[afinepoint]

Sheesh. Allow me to kindly withdraw my comment that has been purposely misconstrued and has high jacked this thread. Yes. Yes Yes My hearing has degraded. Significant no. SCIENTIFICALLY the graphs show very minor hearing losses. My point which was admittedly poorly made is the degradation is not significant. Little since first measured in my thirties. I can't explain that. Is anyone here qualified to say otherwise? And before "someone" jumps on that it measured excellently then. I should have phrased it such. I happen to have very good hearing. By the graphs better than average for the majority. OK the teenagers will smoke me. Sorry that such hearing at my age bothers some so. Some seem to find it incredulous. Get over it. My earlier statement was sweeping. Apologies. And thanks JS for the data. I missed that. Can we move on now?

 

[voodooless]

My statement was sweeping. Apologies. Can we now move on?

Yes please Turns out your not superhuman after all

 

[Killingbeans]

What sounds good to you might grate in my ears. True?

True. But research also shows that when preconceived notions are removed from the equation, some annoyances become surprisingly universal.

 

[afinepoint]

Yes please Turns out your not superhuman after all

Are any of us? Never said I was superman. I spoke in absolutes. I thought others could read through it. I was wrong. My bad.

Also apologies to any I may have offended, upset or insulted. That's not my personality. I hope we can keep it civil going forward. I welcome criticism so long as it's constructive.

 

[afinepoint]

True. But research also shows that when preconceived notions are removed from the equation, some annoyances become surprisingly universal.

Hmmm. Something to think about.

 

[EJ3]

No need to be insulting.

That was in no way insulting. It was letting older folks like me know that it might not be for us. Especially if we have younger friends (or significant other) with better hearing coming to visit & we are proud of our wonderful system that sounds like hell to them. The comment saves us from looking like a fool.