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Ashly FX125.4 Multichannel Amp Review

Rate this amplifier:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 7 5.4%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 24 18.6%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 87 67.4%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 11 8.5%

  • Total voters
    129
god audio : for church :p

First Presbyterian Church of Ithaca, NY has been outfitted with a unique multizone sound reinforcement system that is headed by 177 loudspeakers driven by Ashly Audio PEMA 8250.70 amplifiers.
They must have to move their collection plate(s) with a forklift.
 
My understanding is that this Ashly unit is a rebranded Blaze Audio Powerzone Connect 504, so we do have data on Blaze Audio now!
Well, right spotted, the connections are similar and even the app screenshot looks the same...
They state
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Well, right spotted, the connections are similar and even the app screenshot looks the same...
They state
Good find. Sonance usually OEMs amps though so I am not sure they are the origin of this either. Did a quick search and found another company selling same product:
 
Well, right spotted, the connections are similar and even the app screenshot looks the same...
They state
Plus we have a teardown and measurements of it here at ASR. :)

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Seems these are using;

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If using digital input, is there a way to control volume? Other than via web interface.
 
If using digital input, is there a way to control volume? Other than via web interface.
See the docs about the GPIO pins - 4 of them are analog volume control, and the documentation shows how to connect a pot (>10k) for volume control. Given the market they cater to, they may also publish the API for the web control so that it can be integrated into home control systems. Making a wifi-enabled volume knob would be a DIY project.

edit: published API: https://blaze-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Blaze-Open-API-for-Installers-v8.pdf
 
Interesting. I have never heard that. Did you get the info from an inside source? If that is true then I guess i would go blaze considering it has an app that does everything and no need for a computer really.

Plus we have a teardown and measurements of it here at ASR. :)

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Wow really good find JSmith! Same as the U-Pro2S find. This brings a whole new level of knowledge to this product and many other products on the market.
 
The DSP features look good, assuming they and the UI are well implemented. Amps with DSP are interesting, especially in the lower price range. When I look at speaker price and performance, Ascilab looks very good but I need amps and room compensation. Neumann, Genelec and others have that all in one. Putting it all together with separates could be more attractive with products like Ashly's.
 
4 ch for $1k

What would the application be for an average home with this guy?
 
4 ch for $1k

What would the application be for an average home with this guy?
It's not really designed for the average home, but looks like it could be used as a small all-in-one crossover/amp for 2-ways like the LXmini. Anywhere you might use a 2 in, 4 out MiniDSP and a couple of stereo amps but want it in one box really. The network control makes it fit right in with home automation systems too, if that's something you need. They also do 8 channel versions if you want to do a pair of 3 or 4 way speakers, or passive subs.
 
Wow really good find JSmith! Same as the U-Pro2S find. This brings a whole new level of knowledge to this product and many other products on the market.
No worries, although now I look again, it may well be the lower output module;


JSmith
 
It's not really designed for the average home, but looks like it could be used as a small all-in-one crossover/amp for 2-ways like the LXmini. Anywhere you might use a 2 in, 4 out MiniDSP and a couple of stereo amps but want it in one box really. The network control makes it fit right in with home automation systems too, if that's something you need. They also do 8 channel versions if you want to do a pair of 3 or 4 way speakers, or passive subs.
I guess it's another option you can add to Hypex. But at $1k, doesn't make it a good option though.
 
No worries, although now I look again, it may well be the lower output module;


JSmith

I don't think it is that one, since the total SMPS power is only 140W, but from Amir's testing it is capable of 2x120W on one module.
 
I guess it's another option you can add to Hypex. But at $1k, doesn't make it a good option though.
Depends what your priorities are. A pair of FA122 would be the nearest match and cheaper, but bigger and without the networked control.
 
I guess it's another option you can add to Hypex. But at $1k, doesn't make it a good option though.

I wouldn't say that. I own Hypex FA503's, and Hypex plate amps are a real PITA. The Hypex is a great amp, but everything else about it sucks and the Ashly is much better at. I'll explain

The Hypex is a plate amp, but it is so physically tall that it cannot be used in bookshelf speakers. This makes them limited to floorstanding speakers or giant bookshelf speakers.

It gets worse. The Hypex plate amp isn't airtight, so it requires it's own chamber within the loudspeaker. This eats up an enormous amount of space within the speaker.

The Hypex amp run extremely hot for class D amps, especially at idle. To make things worse their maximum temperature is much lower than other pro amps at 95C when most pro amps can handle 125-150C. Runs hot while having low max temp tolerance AND having to be in a tiny enclosed airspace rather than sharing the entire airspace with the speaker is the worst combo of all worlds and a recipe for reliability disasters. And yes, the Hypex plate amps are quite poor in reliability, this is why you never see them used in pro audio even though they're competitively priced.

But Hypex isn't just a reliability mess, it is quite awful at practical usability too.

The amp takes 4 seconds to get out of standby, which is basically an eternity. Every other audio product except one that I've ever used has instant wake from standby, and the one exception took 0.5 seconds. Imagine the first 4 seconds of your audio cut out every time you listen to your speaker...... The amp very audibly clicks when going in and out of standby as well, again never seen that before, and it gets a bit annoying.

The limiter is useless. It adds audible noises 6-7dB before the limiter is supposed to engage. The amplifier also doesn't overload gracefully. It would occasionally pop and mute rather than soft clip.

There are various bugs within the amp. There used to be bugs that would cause the speaker to blast 0dBFS full scale volume in certain circumstances, but thankfully that's been fixed. The auto input selector is not reliable. The slave unit can often lose sync with the master unit when connected in master/slave digital configuration. The Hypex software has numerous frustrating bugs when trying to use it that I won't detail. Thankfully I only have to use it once to set up.

The Ashly is much smaller, much more reliable, much more usable features (Wi-Fi and network control, advanced limiters, more filters like raised cosine). If you value usability, Ashly is much better than Hypex in every way at the expense of pure amplifier performance. This is what drove me to send Amir the Ashly amp. I need another solution for active speakers because the Hypex is just unacceptable from a usability standpoint.
 
As I explained above, of course you want to run the device with static IP address. But on first power up, you want to be able to see the device instantly to configure it. For this, DHCP should be the default. You can then use a port scanner (or in my case Unifi dashboard) and find its IP address and connect. Then you can give it the proper static IP address you like it to have, not the random one they have selected.
No experience with pro audio, but with older pro networking gear. I don't mind the static IP because it's trivial to add an IP alias to get to it -- in my experience, easier than finding the DHCP address it got assigned!

But this is not argument, just an anecdote.
 
The amp takes 4 seconds to get out of standby, which is basically an eternity. Every other audio product except one that I've ever used has instant wake from standby, and the one exception took 0.5 seconds. Imagine the first 4 seconds of your audio cut out every time you listen to your speaker...... The amp very audibly clicks when going in and out of standby as well, again never seen that before, and it gets a bit annoying.
I just timed my Neumann KH120II DSP, 6.38s to get out of standby.
 
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