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AsciLab speakers are about to launch

Why would Ascilab do this? Does any other speaker manufacturer or electronics manufacturer do this? Why would Ascilab subject themselves to the criticism and rude behavior from many of the ASR members? Road maps and pricing change all the time. I foresee many ASR members using any changes as reasons for non-constructive criticism.
 
They already published it via their dealer. Unless you’re saying that’s a fake roadmap.

Just asking from the source, which would be better. Of course they can choose not to do so. No need to justify to you why they should do so or not. You don’t represent them.
 
@AsciLab do you plan to offer both the A6B and S6B? Your pdf product road map shows only the S6B with planned availability in Q2 of 2025. Actually do you have an updated availability schedule? I am most interested in the active cardoid capable monitor
thanks!
A6B is included to our roadmap.
We are waiting for the Purifi drivers.

Time goes faster than we expected, and the things go slower too. Sorry to announce rush time line. As we expecting A6B, S6B and C6C can be released in this year. And one more model will be released maybe.
 
Yes, I would encourage @AsciLab to re-publish their roadmap, timeline, and maybe ballpark prices.

I’d rather hear directly from manufacturer rather than rely on secondary source for information.

Looking forward to the roadmap.
Yes. Our first roadmap announced with too tight time line. Many of them will be shifted to the next quarter or year.

We will re-open our roadmap.
But recently we are too busy to re-design the road map. Please kindly wait.
 
they can also add notes to indicate that details and pricing are not final.
Price in the roadmap is not final.
There’ll be somewhat increasing than we expected. But still reasonable price range for its performance.
 
Yes. Our first roadmap announced with too tight time line. Many of them will be shifted to the next quarter or year.

We will re-open our roadmap.
But recently we are too busy to re-design the road map. Please kindly wait.

Thank you very much.
 
A6B is included to our roadmap.
We are waiting for the Purifi drivers.

Time goes faster than we expected, and the things go slower too. Sorry to announce rush time line. As we expecting A6B, S6B and C6C can be released in this year. And one more model will be released maybe.
I'd really like to see the F6C or the equivalent with ceramic drivers. I've been looking for a speaker that size with cardioid radiation for a long time.
 
it's really apples to oranges considering their size and price difference, their both great speakers.
With that said, the current room their in needs treatment and is really reflective so the Revels were a little more difficult to set up and I ended up EQ'ing them with Dirac which helped a lot, in comparison the Asci's didn't really seem to need much set up just point them at your head and the coherence was crystal clear, now again this might have to do with size difference with the Revel's stepping on themselves with the lower ranges and larger presence so you're milage may vary.
To that point the Revels seemed to have a wider sound at the top end where the Asci's felt more focused, I'm not sure how to describe it but the Asci's sort put you into a zone of control were your vaguely aware of the boundaries but also locked into ridiculous resolution even in a really challenging room, the word control always comes to mind, if your in the sound field the speaker is in complete control, all sorts of details come out of the woodwork. It's what I would imagine if there was such thing as cardioid for high frequencies. At least that's my experience in my difficult room, I might park them in the living room for a while and see how the open up to a larger area, will be interesting to see if my impression of the sonic signature changes

I have a dedicated listening room with lots of treatment (smooth 300ms RT60 decay time down to about 150hz or something).

Comparing my Revel F206 to the Ascilab C6B, I had basically the same exact experience as you (minus the wider top end on the Revels).

Very easy to set up. Lots of details being revealed. The soundstage seems more boundless.

I've even got some effects where it seems like a sound can travel vertically a bit. Never had that with the Revel F206 or M106.

I also find myself not needing to listen to things quite as loud for them to sound good.
 
The C6B have arrived!
Shipping was fast but clearing at the customs was not. Had to make some calls. But in the end it all worked out. No damage at all on the speakers. The packaging was damaged on the outside but didn't reach the speakers, fortunately.

First impression is that they are bigger than I expected. Finishing is smooth and nicely done. 8/10 from me.

I connected them up and started listening. Describing a sound on paper is very difficult, but I'll give it a go. In my room of 3,5 by 2,5 meters they sound clear and natural, it's hard to attach a description to it.

I would say neutral with a natural warmth to voices and instruments. Recording quality becomes apparent and details emerge that I haven't heard on the Genelec 8030. It's very easy to hear the less amplified sounds in a mix. They sound composed and sound best imo at least 1 to 2 feet from the wall without eq.
Spacial qualities/imaging is noticable, even on a desktop setup. They will probably shine in that area when given the space. Sound reproduction gets a solid 10/10 from me.

Due to their size and back radiator imo they're best suited to a medium sized room in free space, ie at least 2 feet/50 cm from the back wall. Although they sound more than good closer to the wall. Eq might be needed then.
The smaller model without passive radiator might be better/ easier to accomodate on a desktop with a subwoofer to fill in the lows.
These are small limitations really. The whole package is stellar sound and value imo.
 
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A6B is included to our roadmap.
We are waiting for the Purifi drivers.

Time goes faster than we expected, and the things go slower too. Sorry to announce rush time line. As we expecting A6B, S6B and C6C can be released in this year. And one more model will be released maybe.
Given what you've already been able to accomplish, there's no reason everyone should not be patient and let you go about your business. We'll all get speakers in the end, if that's what we want. (Hint: It is). Would be nice to get updates when you find it feasible to do so. I think everyone is starting to understand you're going to deliver, but it's a complicated process, especially when you've committed to such an ambitious undertaking.
 
I have a question for the group that this speaker has brought to my attention with regard to the rear facing PR. How does it affect SBIR?

I've noticed in my space, SBIR is reduced significantly compared to my floorstanding speakers (dynaudio Emit 30 and Revel F36.). Both of them at 10-12" off the wall, there is a null between 100-130hz. The C6B do not show the same effect when running Audyssey measurements, or at least not as drastic.
 
I have a question for the group that this speaker has brought to my attention with regard to the rear facing PR. How does it affect SBIR?

I've noticed in my space, SBIR is reduced significantly compared to my floorstanding speakers (dynaudio Emit 30 and Revel F36.). Both of them at 10-12" off the wall, there is a null between 100-130hz. The C6B do not show the same effect when running Audyssey measurements, or at least not as drastic.
If you place the speakers at same position, floor/ceiling bounce must be the reason of different SBIR by different woofer position and number. PR doesn’t affect directivity above 100Hz. Only a little difference is there around 30~50Hz.
 
The C6B have arrived!
Shipping was fast but clearing at the customs was not. Had to make some calls. But in the end it all worked out. No damage at all on the speakers. The packaging was damaged on the outside but didn't reach the speakers, fortunately.
When did you order vs. shipping date? I ordered June 12th and still in “preparing to ship” :(
 
When did you order vs. shipping date? I ordered June 12th and still in “preparing to ship” :(

I ordered on 2nd June; it was sent from Seoul on 4th and arrived in the Netherlands on the 6th.

Then it sat at customs until I called Fedex, who apparently were missing an email address, even though they had my phone number. I called them myself after waiting 3 weeks. Then things got rolling and I got it delivered 2 days after paying customs.
 
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