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You might think about including m5 ( whatever size you feel appropriate ) bolt holes in the bottom of the speakers allowing the speakers to be bolted to the stands?
Keith
 
Purité Audio said:
You might think about including m5 ( whatever size you feel appropriate ) bolt holes in the bottom of the speakers allowing the speakers to be bolted to the stands?
Keith
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It makes no difference in my experience. The bolted speaker will have the same high center of gravity and as a result the whole construction will tip over as one piece.
 
If you have heavy stands or secure them to the floor…
Keith
 
Purité Audio said:
You might think about including m5 bolt holes in the bottom of the speakers allowing the speakers to be bolted to the stands
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For a safe connection with the stand, it would be better to use bolts, but since the passive network PCB occupies a lot of space on the bottom inside the enclosure, there is a risk of damage to the PCB if bolts of the wrong length are used.
 
jhaider said:
Boo. I hope you reconsider. Nothing IMO says “canned music” like staring at loudspeaker drivers
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The enclosure was made primarily of alumina trihydrate. Because it is a material with a density over twice that of birch plywood, it is possible to reduce the overall size while maintaining the internal volume. Since the material and color are used as is, it is impossible to adopt the grill attachment method using magnets, and using the pin combination type causes problems with design unity.
 
Most grilles do affect frequency response, but usually it's the frame rather than the material, as most grille fabrics are acoustically transparent. Personally, I do prefer speakers with grilles though from an aesthetic perspective.


JSmith
 
JSmith said:
Most grilles do affect frequency response, but usually it's the frame rather than the material, as most grille fabrics are acoustically transparent. Personally, I do prefer speakers with grilles though from an aesthetic perspective.
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Currently, it is difficult to apply a grille that covers the entire front of the speaker.
However, limited to the woofer, it is possible to cover the trim ring with grill cloth, but it is necessary to find out whether this is possible without increasing the manufacturing cost.
 
ascilab said:
For a safe connection with the stand, it would be better to use bolts, but since the passive network PCB occupies a lot of space on the bottom inside the enclosure, there is a risk of damage to the PCB if bolts of the wrong length are used.
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The bolt receptacles to have a ‘stop’ so you can’t push the bolt further into the enclosure, it was just a thought that you could have the provision of bolting even if customers chose not to.
Keith
 
I wouldn’t worry about a grill the speakers aesthetic is very clean, pure, understated it is attractive in its own right.
Keith
 
ascilab, don't try to make a speaker that everyone wants.
Just make the best you can.
Remember, if you ask a committee to design a horse, you will end up with a camel.
So far, your speakers look like thoroughbred horses- don't let lots of random people make you turn them into camels
 
ascilab said:
The enclosure was made primarily of alumina trihydrate. Because it is a material with a density over twice that of birch plywood, it is possible to reduce the overall size while maintaining the internal volume. Since the material and color are used as is, it is impossible to adopt the grill attachment method using magnets, and using the pin combination type causes problems with design unity.
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I’m sure there are ways, such as using the mounting screws. Also a grille needn’t cover the whole baffle - look to e.g. Neumannn, Amphion, or the TAD speaker Erin recently measured. The points are protection (avoid the “used KEF” problem) and to conceal motion of drive units that shatters perceptions of imaging and puts the music in a can.
 
jhaider said:
I’m sure there are ways, such as using the mounting screws. Also a grille needn’t cover the whole baffle - look to e.g. Neumannn, Amphion, or the TAD speaker Erin recently measured. The points are protection (avoid the “used KEF” problem) and to conceal motion of drive units that shatters perceptions of imaging and puts the music in a can.
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There are no screws visible and there's no way at this point they would put non removable metal grille like Neumanns have. The only viable way (as in not changing the design in visible way, not making it sound any different, not expensive) I see is using the slits between the plywood and the front in the wooden finish version and some kind of small wedge on the cover frame to insert there.
 
A grill would be fine but not mandatory since your speakers seem to be real beauties.... Really looking forward the measurements of the purify equipped version. Could you give us a hint on the calculated F3 and F6 for bass extension unechoic?
 
Reddoc said:
ascilab, don't try to make a speaker that everyone wants.
Just make the best you can.
Remember, if you ask a committee to design a horse, you will end up with a camel.
So far, your speakers look like thoroughbred horses- don't let lots of random people make you turn them into camels
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@ascilab, I agree with @Reddoc.

A couple of days ago I messaged you in hopes of becoming a dealer for you at some point, but now that I think about it some more, you won't even need dealers. I think you will be able to sell your speakers direct to your customers.

So my only suggestion is, that you charge a high enough price so you can cover all of your expenses and recover you investment and make a satisfactory profit. I don't see how you can offer these speakers for the prices you are talking about - I'm NOT questioning your math, just amazed. If you need to adjust your prices higher than you originally planned, I think we will all understand that you need to be fairly compensated for the hard work, expertise, and financial investment you have put into this.

I get the impression that you really want to keep your prices low so that your speakers will be accessible to more people. I think that for you this is more than just a business, it is a way to be of service to many. But I think we already want you to stay in business and thrive!
 
The final passive crossover network sample has been produced.
If there are no problems after testing with the final sample next week, it will be mass-produced.
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Duke said:
@ascilab, I agree with @Reddoc.

A couple of days ago I messaged you in hopes of becoming a dealer for you at some point, but now that I think about it some more, you won't even need dealers. I think you will be able to sell your speakers direct to your customers.

So my only suggestion is, that you charge a high enough price so you can cover all of your expenses and recover you investment and make a satisfactory profit. I don't see how you can offer these speakers for the prices you are talking about - I'm NOT questioning your math, just amazed. If you need to adjust your prices higher than you originally planned, I think we will all understand that you need to be fairly compensated for the hard work, expertise, and financial investment you have put into this.

I get the impression that you really want to keep your prices low so that your speakers will be accessible to more people. I think that for you this is more than just a business, it is a way to be of service to many. But I think we already want you to stay in business and thrive!
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It is possible to encompass direct and retail sales, direct when there are no retailers in that geographical location.
Customers do still enjoy being able to actually hear the speaker ( and compare to others ) before purchase.
But that does mean some thought has to be given to pricing/margins before release.
See MEG Geithain for the very worst case scenario!
Ultimately of course the manufacturers decision.
Keith
 
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