AsciLab speakers are about to launch

[Ktacos]

Where can I give you guys money and get a speaker

 

[JohnnyNG]

Really, so is Ascilabs going to offer an "upgrade" path for anyone buying the passives to change to actives at a latter point in time?

AsciLab speakers are about to launch

Here are two types of speaker stands. The spike shoes for the stands haven't arrived yet, so the photo shows them without the shoes. Also, the rubber feet under the speakers are temporary.

www.audiosciencereview.com

 

[greyhound]

@AsciLab is there likely to be UK availability of the A6B Actives in January?

 

[wong117]

If I am planning to use subs, is it still worth it to get the A6B? Or the C5B/C6B would be more than enough?

 

[AudioJester]

If I am planning to use subs, is it still worth it to get the A6B? Or the C5B/C6B would be more than enough?

Depends on listening distance, room size and target SPL.

 

[Luvchampagne]

Has the website, other than the link below been given? Is that the home website? I'm guessing it might be since it has the AcousticFuser products. But it also has Emotiva and Arendal products as well as the Asci Lab.

https://ctishop.co.kr/product/list.html?cate_no=42#none

Also, in reading through the 38 pages, I seemed to have missed the explanation on the A6B Passive being actually Active and the cost to do so. Is there a plan to swap that plate with the Hypex based amp plate at a later time? Additional cost?

 

[boxerfan88]

Also, in reading through the 38 pages, I seemed to have missed the explanation on the A6B Passive being actually Active and the cost to do so. Is there a plan to swap that plate with the Hypex based amp plate at a later time? Additional cost?

If I understand correctly, A6B will have 2 variants. One passive, the other active. The passive variant can be upgraded to active with crossover<>amp_plate swap.

 

[Luvchampagne]

Ok. Looks like a pair of the A6B Passive in the upgraded Black or White are 4,000,000 won which is approximately USD$2860 for purchase and delivery in South Korea.
Not quite the bargain I was hoping for. Maybe wait for the 3 way or see what the final pricing on the upgraded Active A6B?

 

[alebucc91]

When will shipping to Europe be available?

 

[Grotti]

I just discovered this brand because i was looking for an Amphion One or Telegrapher alternative.

I am strictly interested in fully analog studio monitors because i don't want any dsp-inducted latency at all.
If i would do only mixing duties with these monitors i would't mind about latency, but i want a pair of speakers that can be used also for live playing/recording/tracking, therefore i don't want a "near zero" latency dsp studio monitor, I WANT A ZERO LATENCY STUDIO MONITOR, and i don't give a s** if a few ms of latency are almost impossible to hear, i don't want any f** latency when i'm playing or tracking and this is it.

It would be good to have an Ascilab-made amp for the A6B Passive, an amp aimed for studio purpose and obviously without DSP to stay in the "full analog" uncrowded segment of studio monitors (even more uncrowded if we talk about only nearfield options that aren't cheap crap).

Welcome at ASR. You made VERY clear, that you are allergic against latency that might come with active monitors. "Might" because there are still active monitors out there without DSP and strictly analog amplification, which avoid latency problems.

And I wonder why you see a need for an Ascilab made power amplifier: there are a lot of suitable amplifiers out there and some of them are reviewed here.

 

[AsciLab]

i’m not allergic to active monitors, as i said i don’t want dsp equipped studio monitors for playing/recording/tracking just because i don’t want latency at all when i make these duties. And in fact the studio options are quite limited when we talk about only full analog (active or passive doesn’t matter) and possibly sealed or with passive radiator.

Would be good to have an Ascilab-made amp fully analog and aimed for studio just because i don’t know many amp options strictly studio oriented, i see many audiophile oriented manufacturers, therefore would be good to see a fully analog amp specifically made to use in pair with the Ascilab speakers, or at least knowing a couple of brands directly endorsed by Ascilab for a full analog amp for studio purposes.

Thanks for you to have interesting about us.

You can have just simple analog power amp to drive our passive speaker. Like Amphion does.

Our active version will be active DSP and it has less 1ms latency in minimum phase. You said that you don’t want any latency though.

In near future we don’t have a plan to design our power amp yet. There are a lot of great and simple amps nowadays without “audiophile” features. You can choose one of them as studio monitor power amp.

 

[sigbergaudio]

i’m not allergic to active monitors, as i said i don’t want dsp equipped studio monitors for playing/recording/tracking just because i don’t want latency at all when i make these duties. And in fact the studio options are quite limited when we talk about only full analog (active or passive doesn’t matter) and possibly sealed or with passive radiator.

Would be good to have an Ascilab-made amp fully analog and aimed for studio just because i don’t know many amp options strictly studio oriented, i see many audiophile oriented manufacturers, therefore would be good to see a fully analog amp specifically made to use in pair with the Ascilab speakers, or at least knowing a couple of brands directly endorsed by Ascilab for a full analog amp for studio purposes.

As @AsciLab says, the Hypex DSP (used in the active version of the Ascilabs) has less than 1ms latency on analog inputs, so it's actually a good alternative for your requirements.

 

[AsciLab]

First thank you @AsciLab for your reply.


Ascilab wrote 1ms latency when used in minimum phase configuration, wether analog or digital input is to be determined, but it doesn’t matter anyways, <1ms in minimum phase is pretty normal, it is with linear phase configuration that latency arises, but that’s not my point anyways, my point is having zero latency at all = therefore a fully analog monitor system possibly sealed or with passive radiators. if i wanted a dsp equipped studio speaker with minimum latency there are already plenty of other options i would consider, instead i can’t say the same thing for fully analog studio system sealed or PR

Personally wondering, why don’t you regard ported? Only looking for PR or sealed type enclosure?

 

[sigbergaudio]

First thank you @AsciLab for your reply.


Ascilab wrote 1ms latency when used in minimum phase configuration, wether analog or digital input is to be determined, but it doesn’t matter anyways, <1ms in minimum phase is pretty normal, it is with linear phase configuration that latency arises, but that’s not my point anyways, my point is having zero latency at all = therefore a fully analog monitor system possibly sealed or with passive radiators. if i wanted a dsp equipped studio speaker with minimum latency there are already plenty of other options i would consider, instead i can’t say the same thing for fully analog studio system sealed or PR

<1ms is not pretty normal, most have several ms.

I think this is an example where you are making it difficult for yourself to find monitors without any practical reason to do so. less than 1ms latency is the same as zero for all practical purposes, and will be perfectly fine for a live recording situation.

 

[AsciLab]

<1ms is not pretty normal, most have several ms.

I think this is an example where you are making it difficult for yourself to find monitors without any practical reason to do so. less than 1ms latency is the same as zero for all practical purposes, and will be perfectly fine for a live recording situation.

I agreed. 1ms is only about 34cm distance.
If one listens speaker far from 1.5m, there are already more than 4ms latency.

 

[kharan]

@AsciLab @sigbergaudio Does Hypex provide the MTBF for their amps and components?

 

[sigbergaudio]

@AsciLab @sigbergaudio Does Hypex provide the MTBF for their amps and components?

I do not believe that information is public, no.

 

[Matt_Holland]

<1ms is not pretty normal, most have several ms.

I think this is an example where you are making it difficult for yourself to find monitors without any practical reason to do so. less than 1ms latency is the same as zero for all practical purposes, and will be perfectly fine for a live recording situation.

DID YOU NOT LISTEN?!!

He “WANT A ZERO LATENCY STUDIO MONITOR, and i don't give a s** if a few ms of latency are almost impossible to hear, i don't want any f** latency when i'm playing or tracking and this is it.”

LOL!

The unprovoked rant was very amusing.

 

[Matt_Holland]

I agreed. 1ms is only about 34cm distance.
If one listens speaker far from 1.5m, there are already more than 4ms latency.

STOP WITH WELL REASONED LOGIC!

“i don't give a s** if a few ms of latency are almost impossible to hear”

 

[kharan]

I do not believe that information is public, no.

Do you have the information behind a non-disclosure agreement and you cannot reveal the number or do you not have the information?