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AsciLab speakers are about to launch

Today I had chance to listen to their A6b active and C6b in Ascilab Korea's demo room.

I have listened to early prototypes of C5b. But it was for short time, so today I spent hours listening to A6b C6b C5b.


And I have to say, their high SPL handling is more than impressive. Simply, it blew my mind.


For most of my time I listened to A6b active.

Firstly, I pre-ordered A6b passive so I was interested in what I should expect.

Second, considering the power handling and low distortion of purifi 6.5", I thought limits of sb26 based tweeter assembly will be more apparent in it.

Pipe organ, big band, bass heavy electronics, and some nerdy j-pops with female vocals...

And it is just excellent. I won't say it goes super deep, 6.5" just can't do it. But it goes deep enough, and more importantly it hits super hard.


Low notes of Pipe organ was loud enough to vibrate the fire door, and it was still clean with no mud in the upper notes.
(Not to mention we had to take turns pressing the door so it won't vibrate noise...)

The tweeters had no problem with high volume and dynamics of big band.

The well made waveguide structure handled the so called micro dynamics with ease and loud trumpets with authority.

Cymbals were loud and crisp, no doubt they're doing their jobs like a pro.

Not an everyday experience with moderate priced drivers...

For electronics and female vocals, it was uneventful. Just good time listening to favorite mix with great room and speaker.

Now for the more affordable C line. First, it was C6b as I had auditioned C5b before.

The choice of musics were similar, pipe organ, big band, K-pops, and soundtracks from the Disney movies.


First I was surprised by the amount of bass from the 6” SB acoustic woofer.

For the price difference I was expecting much less output from the system. But the bass was decent.

It played loud enough without the bottoming mechanical noises from the woofer.
(But It would have been bottoming crazy if outputs were few decibels higher, I won’t deny that.)

I’ll say they sounded clear enough. Not the spooky clean purifi level, but was much more than what I expected.

Pipe organs were played without disturbing level of degradation, but I admit that I was surprised by the bass handling that I forgot to valuate its tonality.

I was more into looking for its downsides in such high spl, but I say, SB acoustics did well in their woofers!

Can see why these were chosen over the others (those that look better on thd graphs but worse on klippel.)


Since it is passive model with no low-cut, under the tuning frequency, weird passive radiator movements were observed at very low frequency.

But it was within the tolerance of the driver so I’ll say it is negligible. Just don’t try to boost the natural roll off with tons of eq.


The part I liked C6b most was with pop musics.

It’s hard to explain why but C6b sounded a bit more natural(familiar could be a better word.) with pop musics.

Very relaxing with no parts poking out, I liked C6b with pop.


Finally the C5b,

This boy goes as deep as its brother. But with less output capabilities.

It quickly bottomed out at high volume and excursion was visible through the whole session.

But as I mentioned with the C6b, these woofer drivers handle high excursion quite well and sound wasn’t ruined.


Rating C lines after A line makes them look bad, but I want to say they are far from bad.

A6b was expected to be very good, and it sounded very good, with its output capability better than my expectation

C6b was expected to be worse than A6b, but it sounded good. Not ‘I can live with this’ good, more like ‘wow these does keep up with those $$$ purifi’ good.

Output capability was decent with 6” version. 5” versions, they aren’t meant to be used in such volumes imo.



The tones and sound staging of these speakers are excellent. With the purifi being more clean and detailed with its crazy low distortion.
(But demo rooms of Ascilab is amazing… And room acoustics play large role in spatial cues, very large.)

I’m not really good at subjective writing, but if I try.

A6b - Foot starts tapping as I listen to those big band jazz. Very realistic and punchy speakers

C6b - I close my eyes and enjoy the pops I love. Natural and smooth, maybe bit more warm?


C6b is great bang for the bucks. A6b will be for those who want the most out of two way bookshelves. C5b, they are small and cute, perfect for deskfi.

I’m thinking of buying a pair of C5b for office use, they are my favorite in terms of aesthetics. And sounds are good…



Disclaimer?

My experience with small speakers is limited.

Have

Paradigm mini monitor V7 (which sounds terrible.)

Kef R3 (sounds ok, I like C6b better but Kef has its own benefits with coaxial drivers.)

Kef LS60W (I like it less than R3.)

Had

Kef Q350 (not so bad but far from good.)
 
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What electronics are used in the A6b active?
Will it have built in subwoofer integration for those so inclined?
 
Hello everyone,

It's been a while, and I'm excited to share some great news with you.

In Korea, pre-orders for AsciLab's C5B, C6B, and A6B models have recently begun. Given the previous lack of reliable manufacturers here, I'm genuinely thrilled by this development.

In thinking about how to make the most of this opportunity, I have planned a new measurement event and would like to share the details with you.

It's important to note that AsciLab is still an unproven manufacturer, and even though they possess the Klippel NFS system, we should never fully trust the data provided solely by any manufacturer.
Thus, cross-validation is necessary.

Many of the pre-order applicants in Korea resonated with this idea and agreed to have their product shipments redirected to my studio.
Consequently, I will be receiving 7 pairs of A6B and 6 pairs of C6B, including the official samples from the manufacturer, and plan to measure them all in one day.

To minimize human error and prevent bias during the measurements, I am inviting voluntary observers from the Korean audio community, where I am an active member. They will help ensure no mishaps occur while handling the 13 pairs of speakers and monitor that I adhere correctly to the measurement processes and principles.

If everything goes smoothly, AsciLab will gain credibility for their product performance and quality control.
I will enhance the reliability of my measurement system and reviews by cross-referencing with AsciLab's Klippel NFS system.
The participating pre-order applicants will enjoy thoroughly validated speakers, and the ASR community will benefit from a wealth of comparative data to explore and discuss.

Of course, I am prepared to accept any unforeseen circumstances that may arise. I promise to be transparent about any results, no matter what they may be. All processes will be shared openly with the observers. Let's hope for the best possible outcomes.

I anticipate the event will take place around September.

Thank you. :)
Wow! This is quite rigorous - hard to think of a way to give the measurements more credibility. Looking forward to the results.
 
Hypex Fusion Plate Amp.


I don't think so
Yeah, the XLR out (labelled "through") doesn't seem to have processing applied. A high-pass would be nice, since pretty much all subs already have a low-pass. The Hypex Filter Designer software looks capable of a high-pass but I don't see how it would be selectable/switchable at the user level. I have no idea, though, lol.
 
The Hypex amps have a few ‘pre-sets’ built in, easily accessible from the amp.
Keith
 
Yeah, the XLR out (labelled "through") doesn't seem to have processing applied. A high-pass would be nice, since pretty much all subs already have a low-pass. The Hypex Filter Designer software looks capable of a high-pass but I don't see how it would be selectable/switchable at the user level. I have no idea, though, lol.
Isn't that mainly for master/slave operation ?
 
I'm quite curious as to how the tweeter will perform.

With a crossover at 1k, which is the lowest I've seen that I can remember, and the amount of musical content in the 1k to 2k range, it's going to handle more around twice the power if not more than most other tweeters.

So what's going to be interesting is whether the tweeter will heat up in if used for long durations at high volume, and if there will be IMD due to the tweeter handling more bandwidth than usual.

EDIT: nvm, I forgot the IMD measurements posted earlier.
Still, it's interesting how the A6 outperforms the C5 and C6 by such a large margin.
 
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With a crossover at 1k, which is the lowest I've seen that I can remember, and the amount of musical content in the 1k to 2k range, it's going to handle more around twice the power if not more than most other tweeters.
The 8c uses 1250hz I think, also in a big waveguide, this seems to have lower distortion in the tweeter range then the 8c, so it looks very impressive.
 
The 8c uses 1250hz I think, also in a big waveguide, this seems to have lower distortion in the tweeter range then the 8c, so it looks very impressive.
Yes, I was looking again at the performance of the tweeter in terms of both harmonic and modulation distortion, it is an impressive unit, especially for its price.

With that said, even if it's probably an excess of caution on my part, I think it would be prudent to make sure it doesn't overheat or do funny things with any content, especially non-musical content that contain a lot of high frequency (mostly thinking of some special effects in movies and video games).

And also, I knew the Purifi woofer was good, but it's still almost unbelievable how modulation distortion is almost 18 dB better at 95/6 dB at 200 Hz on the A6 vs the C6. The A4 is spectacular, the C6 is serviceable at high volumes.
 
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