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[pat355]

hi @AsciLab what is the current ETA for the first shipments of the BX8C?

 

[AsciLab]

what is the current ETA for the first shipments of the BX8C?

Some will be shipped at the end of March, and the remaining units will be shipped starting at the end of April.

 

[pat355]

Some will be shipped at the end of March, and the remaining units will be shipped starting at the end of April.

perfect!

 

[Coltr@ne]

Hortmuz permitting

 

[Goldhamster916]

Does anyone have a S6B yet and want to share some impressions?

 

[Purité Audio]

I have them, they are as you would expect great, I wrote some thoughts on my AsciLab thread, I also have the A6B but haven’t yet had the chance to compare them.
Keith

 

[AudioJester]

Thanks for these tips which will be helpful to me for sure. One last question: you said you also set the master and slave in HFD. Whets the benefit or effect of doing that?

Thanks @Grimoire for answering.

There are still some peculiarities with the Hypex amp as I am learning!
The AES connection between master/slave is limited to audio signal and NOT control signal. The result is my slave will not auto go into low power mode and remains fully on indefinitely past the 10 minute timer I set in the master.
I have 2 options.
1. Connect a SPDIF cable which can send control signal.
2. Reset the slave as a Master so it can do it itself with AES connection only.

I have a feeling its going to get more complicated with the BX8C and 4 amp modules.....

 

[pat355]

I have 2 options.
1. Connect a SPDIF cable which can send control signal.
2. Reset the slave as a Master so it can do it itself with AES connection only.

1. connect a SPDIF cable between the two speakers? any downside in using this option?
2. I don't understand this option - does this mean you now have 2 Master speakers?

Thanks for your help - I'm waiting for my AES cables so soon I will be in the same situation...

 

[AudioJester]

1. connect a SPDIF cable between the two speakers? any downside in using this option?
2. I don't understand this option - does this mean you now have 2 Master speakers?

Thanks for your help - I'm waiting for my AES cables so soon I will be in the same situation...

Yeah, i have not tried yet, but either option should work - in theory.

Master/slave just relates to control functions, one is controlled by the other ot both are independent

 

[Grimoire]

Thanks @Grimoire for answering.

There are still some peculiarities with the Hypex amp as I am learning!
The AES connection between master/slave is limited to audio signal and NOT control signal. The result is my slave will not auto go into low power mode and remains fully on indefinitely past the 10 minute timer I set in the master.
I have 2 options.
1. Connect a SPDIF cable which can send control signal.
2. Reset the slave as a Master so it can do it itself with AES connection only.

I have a feeling its going to get more complicated with the BX8C and 4 amp modules.....

Just when I thought I'd understood everything in the manual!

Jeez, these are never going to sell to the lifestyle brigade.

Option 1 seems the best and the one that I had decided on (in my case all coax spdif). But I'm still waiting on Keith to get his finger out and actually dispatch them to me in the agreed manner so that I can start the adventure myself.

As to the BX8C, one big problem may be the increased latency because of the distance between the front and rear drivers, and with no option to choose minimum phase as you can with the C8C on its own. A curious decision in my opinion.

 

[pat355]

Yeah, i have not tried yet, but either option should work - in theory.

Master/slave just relates to control functions, one is controlled by the other ot both are independent

I find it odd that this behavior is happening: "The result is my slave will not auto go into low power mode and remains fully on indefinitely past the 10 minute timer I set in the master." - this is clearly a design flaw as if you set it on the master, it should then naturally work for both the master and the slave.
If I encounter the same issue, I'll contact support at Hypex.

 

[AudioJester]

I find it odd that this behavior is happening: "The result is my slave will not auto go into low power mode and remains fully on indefinitely past the 10 minute timer I set in the master." - this is clearly a design flaw as if you set it on the master, it should then naturally work for both the master and the slave.
If I encounter the same issue, I'll contact support at Hypex.

Odd yes, but not a fault.
In the amp design AES is purely for audio signal. If you want control signal (master sending instructions to slave) in digital domain have to use SPDIF.
When in slave mode that speaker cant access some of the control functions independently.

 

[pat355]

Odd yes, but not a fault.
In the amp design AES is purely for audio signal. If you want control signal (master sending instructions to slave) in digital domain have to use SPDIF.
When in slave mode that speaker cant access some of the control functions independently.

so in a use case of using AES for audio signal the normal config is to daisy chain the 2 speakers. What happens if they are daisy-chained AND I add a SPDIF cable? will the audio signal still be passed from one speaker to the other via AES? sorry if this is an obvious answer but it's not trivial to me

 

[AudioJester]

so in a use case of using AES for audio signal the normal config is to daisy chain the 2 speakers. What happens if they are daisy-chained AND I add a SPDIF cable? will the audio signal still be passed from one speaker to the other via AES? sorry if this is an obvious answer but it's not trivial to me

If you want autosense on an off I think the easiest solution is to leave both speakers as master - while using AES daisy chain.

Otherwise you can select AES as forced input on slave despite having multiple digital connections.

I think you will need to play around with it to get it working to your requirements

 

[pat355]

If you want autosense on an off I think the easiest solution is to leave both speakers as master - while using AES daisy chain.

Otherwise you can select AES as forced input on slave despite having multiple digital connections.

I think you will need to play around with it to get it working to your requirements

will do - thank you

 

[Salt]

so in a use case of using AES for audio signal the normal config is to daisy chain the 2 speakers. What happens if they are daisy-chained AND I add a SPDIF cable? will the audio signal still be passed from one speaker to the other via AES? sorry if this is an obvious answer but it's not trivial to me

What would be the reason to add an additional connection to a Daisy-Chained connection?
Btw. You can configure any plateamp by it's own. ... concerning stanby and other stuff.
The wired connection only transfers musical information, no configuration.

 

[AsciLab]

There is a manual about the daisy chain system as Appendix A. Please read the manual first.

AsciLab Manual - Google Drive

drive.google.com

 

[pat355]

There is a manual about the daisy chain system as Appendix A. Please read the manual first.

AsciLab Manual - Google Drive

drive.google.com

I just did read Appendix A a few times but the use case described - which I suppose is a fairly standard one - when using AES to connect both speakers and then set them as master and slave in HFD doesn't really address how to solve the controls sharing aspect. Or at least the recommended option is not clear.

Is it to :
1- use AES between both speakers, force the input as AES on the slave in HFD, and use a SPDIF cable between both speakers to share controls? (if that works I will use this option)
or
2- not use AES between both speakers and simply connect them via SPDIF?

OR are both options possible?

 

[AsciLab]

I just did read Appendix A a few times but the use case described - which I suppose is a fairly standard one - when using AES to connect both speakers and then set them as master and slave in HFD doesn't really address how to solve the controls sharing aspect. Or at least the recommended option is not clear.

Is it to :
1- use AES between both speakers, force the input as AES on the slave in HFD, and use a SPDIF cable between both speakers to share controls? (if that works I will use this option)
or
2- not use AES between both speakers and simply connect them via SPDIF?

OR are both options possible?

If you want to share the control signal, you have to connect both speakers with Spdif cable and set the Master/Slave function.

Spdif cable can share control signal and audio signal both. AES only shares audio signal.

 

[AudioJester]

I can confirm if you set both speakers to master and just use AES everything works, including auto on and auto off.

Cant use master/slave with AES alone.