AsciLab speakers are about to launch

[Salt]

Send him a crane.

 

[CtheArgie]

Your samples are here! I am getting stuff out of the way to review them.

Thanks! Please remember to keep in mind my away dates.

 

[amirm]

Thanks! Please remember to keep in mind my away dates.

I am indeed.

 

[amirm]

Can you do C8C+BX8 together? Does it fit on the Klippel?

I haven't done the math. The maximum height I can test is close to 6 feet.

Problem is, by the time I get BX8C, I may no longer have the C8C so I would have to test the former alone.

 

[Luvchampagne]

Greetings from Korea! I’ve been using the C8C for about a month now.
As the published measurements suggest, the performance is highly impressive.
It’s a very well-engineered speaker, and I’m thoroughly enjoying it.

Please note that I am using a translator as my English is quite limited,
so I may have difficulty providing detailed answers to your questions.
Thank you for your understanding.

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Amazing. How do you get to play your speakers in Korea at higher levels? All my friends tell me that playing anything above 65/70db is just not allowed in any apartment building. Even in standalone homes this is considered pretty difficult.

 

[AudioJester]

@Gomdor thanks for the pics and feedback.

Despite ordering a pair I do think the C8C is kind of abstract looking - with white, silver drivers and black waveguide. The grilles help the front, but the white tweeter in the waveguide still stands out.

So much comment about the Palmer orange ring, does the C8C get a free pass?

I do find my 8361a looks cohesive, will have to compare the C8C in person.

Looks like first shipment of C8C was to dealers. Still waiting for my order to ship

 

[slaweks]

My report: I got my C8Cs last week. They replaced KEF R11s. I listen to stereo music through BACCH on top of Dirac ART. In ART I set no support to fronts, not even self-support, except the subwoofers. This is how I did before, this seems to be working well. I am quite happy, the imaging is really better, e.g. I like music by Turzo, but I always thought that this music, however beautiful, was not well recorded, but now I do not complain , I am happy with its spaciousness etc. The front speakers are around 5 ft from the rear wall, and similar distance from the side walls. There is even more space at the back of the room, and the room is treated with many absorption panels. Interestingly, the BACCH's XTC (cross-talk cancellation) value did not improve, stays around 14-15, but it sounds better.
I did have some problems with the speakers.
1. When I set the volume offset in the HFD software to +10 (from default +7), it forgot it next day, after the sleep.
2. I needed to force input to XLR, otherwise, just, say, 10 secs after stopping playing, it would go to some state with green LED blinking, (the manual says booting, ?) and would require a few secs to fully wake up again, creating problems when I was doing BACCH calibration.
So, far so good, I am looking forward to BX8C.

 

[AsciLab]

My report: I got my C8Cs last week. They replaced KEF R11s. I listen to stereo music through BACCH on top of Dirac ART. In ART I set no support to fronts, not even self-support, except the subwoofers. This is how I did before, this seems to be working well. I am quite happy, the imaging is really better, e.g. I like music by Turzo, but I always thought that this music, however beautiful, was not well recorded, but now I do not complain , I am happy with its spaciousness etc. The front speakers are around 5 ft from the rear wall, and similar distance from the side walls. There is even more space at the back of the room, and the room is treated with many absorption panels. Interestingly, the BACCH's XTC (cross-talk cancellation) value did not improve, stays around 14-15, but it sounds better.
I did have some problems with the speakers.
1. When I set the volume offset in the HFD software to +10 (from default +7), it forgot it next day, after the sleep.
2. I needed to force input to XLR, otherwise, just, say, 10 secs after stopping playing, it would go to some state with green LED blinking, (the manual says booting, ?) and would require a few secs to fully wake up again, creating problems when I was doing BACCH calibration.
So, far so good, I am looking forward to BX8C.

Thanks for sharing your impression.

Here are the answers about your problem.

1. There is “volume on start” setting.
You can set the start volume or off that function in the device setting. You can find it easily. Then it won’t be forgot after sleep.

2. We set the default input setting as “Auto detect”. It needs a few sec to find the active signal. Blinking means it is waiting the signal. If you choose(force) specific input channel, it won’t be blinked and will play right away.

 

[slaweks]

Thanks for sharing your impression.

Here are the answers about your problem.

1. There is “volume on start” setting.
You can set the start volume or off that function in the device setting. You can find it easily. Then it won’t be forgot after sleep.

2. We set the default input setting as “Auto detect”. It needs a few sec to find the active signal. Blinking means it is waiting the signal. If you choose(force) specific input channel, it won’t be blinked and will play right away.

Thank you! I will try.

 

[tifune]

1. When I set the volume offset in the HFD software to +10 (from default +7), it forgot it next day, after the sleep.

Where can I find HFD? I don't see any downloads on the AsciLab site

 

[AsciLab]

Where can I find HFD? I don't see any downloads on the AsciLab site

The link is in the manual.

Hypex filter design software

Hypex Filter Designer (HFD) is a program to configure Hypex Electronics B.V. DSPmodules. This software is only available for Windows.

www.hypex.nl

Here is the link.

 

[pat355]

My report: I got my C8Cs last week. They replaced KEF R11s. I listen to stereo music through BACCH on top of Dirac ART. In ART I set no support to fronts, not even self-support, except the subwoofers. This is how I did before, this seems to be working well. I am quite happy, the imaging is really better, e.g. I like music by Turzo, but I always thought that this music, however beautiful, was not well recorded, but now I do not complain , I am happy with its spaciousness etc. The front speakers are around 5 ft from the rear wall, and similar distance from the side walls. There is even more space at the back of the room, and the room is treated with many absorption panels. Interestingly, the BACCH's XTC (cross-talk cancellation) value did not improve, stays around 14-15, but it sounds better.
I did have some problems with the speakers.
1. When I set the volume offset in the HFD software to +10 (from default +7), it forgot it next day, after the sleep.
2. I needed to force input to XLR, otherwise, just, say, 10 secs after stopping playing, it would go to some state with green LED blinking, (the manual says booting, ?) and would require a few secs to fully wake up again, creating problems when I was doing BACCH calibration.
So, far so good, I am looking forward to BX8C.

thank you for sharing. What was your first feeling when you plugged them in? I understand that my question is one that's not really meaningful on ASR but you know, you plug everything in, you sit down, and then something happens (or not). I suppose you've had the R11s for a while so you have *some* kind of memory of how your favorite tracks performed on them.
The C8Cs are very a different design than the R11s obviously, so I was wondering if you felt that for you it was a jump up?

 

[Audionaut]

No, I have not had time to listen to the sample that is here either. Put priority on shipping the speakers out to folks.

Don't forget the stickers: No hairspray allowed!

 

[remcokok86]

Nice, so the first C8C's are arriving! I'm curious, did someone hear from audiophonics? I ordered early (31 december), and the last update was half march. Today I received a reaction they don't have any indication for the delivery schedule. That doesn't sound good.

 

[kharan]

Nice, so the first C8C's are arriving! I'm curious, did someone hear from audiophonics? I ordered early (31 december), and the last update was half march. Today I received a reaction they don't have any indication for the delivery schedule. That doesn't sound good.

I doubt anyone has a better answer than Audiophonics, if they told you they don't have a precise delivery schedule yet, no one has a delivery schedule, they are the dealer for Europe, they are the best placed to answer your questions. I don't quite understand what you mean with "received a reaction", did you ask them and they answered? Did you just check the automated status update?

For what it's worth, I emailed Audiophonics about 10 days ago, and they said first half of march with no precise estimation.

I'm not particularly happy about it, but I knew when ordering that Ascilab had neither their supply chain, nor their prediction for demand sorted out, and that with built to order products, delays were foreseable.

EDIT: to be clear, I'm not particularly concerned either.

 

[Everett T]

I waited almost a year for a pair of Salk speakers it was painful but I understood.

 

[AudioJester]

My C8C arrived. Like others some minor damage to boxes - both outer and inner, but the foam packing meant no damage to speakers.

I do think the a speaker of this size and weight needs either flight case or wooden crate.

 

[NanoGuidingStar]

My local Ascilab distributor/dealer adds an extra layer of cardboard box over the original packaging before shipping, and I think this might be a good method.

 

[amirm]

I do think the a speaker of this size and weight needs either flight case or wooden crate.

That would make it even heavier, increasing the shipping cost even more. I agree we need more protection but hopefully not to that extent. A larger air gap between the inner and outer box plus plastic wrap may solve most of the problems.

 

[AudioJester]

That would make it even heavier, increasing the shipping cost even more. I agree we need more protection but hopefully not to that extent. A larger air gap between the inner and outer box plus plastic wrap may solve most of the problems.

Yeah, that makes sense. Currently the inner box is just sitting in the outer box with nothing between the 2. Some foam or other bracing would help.

By the way- i have a feeling your Salon2 preferred replacement 8361a -may be dethroned...