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Ten years, the site that changed the audio world for the good.
Well done Amir, the time, effort and expenditure you have spent I am indebted to you.
Keith
 
Well done Amir, the time, effort and expenditure you have spent I am indebted to you.
And I to you as one of our very first members. And probably the only one together with Sal still posting!
 
Hi everyone,
I just wanted to share the news: I finally managed to grab a pair of AsciLab C6B from Audiophonics!
To be honest, it was a real mess at first with stock shortages everywhere. I originally wanted the Black version, but it's sold out everywhere and I didn't have the patience to wait until March. When I saw there were only 3 units left of the Metallic Grey version, I rushed over to it Even if it’s chf200 more expensive than the base model, I just couldn't wait any longer to "taste this quality" of these speakers.
This is my very first real audio system. I'm a total beginner, but for a total budget of around chf2,000, I truly believe this setup is unbeatable in terms of price-to-performance ratio.
Everything is ready for their arrival in Switzerland:
Amp: WiiM Amp Ultra.
Sub: Magnat Alpha RS 12 with a 80Hz crossover already configured.
Accessories: Speaker stands, cables, and anti-vibration pads are all set.
I'm so hyped to finally hear this level of performance in my 20m² setup. so I'm glad I went with such a high-quality "scientific" choice for my entry into the hobby!
 
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Hi everyone,
I just wanted to share the news: I finally managed to grab a pair of AsciLab C6B from Audiophonics!
To be honest, it was a real mess at first with stock shortages everywhere. I originally wanted the Black version, but it's sold out everywhere and I didn't have the patience to wait until March. When I saw there were only 3 units left of the Metallic Grey version, I rushed over to it Even if it’s chf200 more expensive than the base model, I just couldn't wait any longer to "taste this quality" of these speakers.
This is my very first real audio system. I'm a total beginner, but for a total budget of around chf2,000, I truly believe this setup is unbeatable in terms of price-to-performance ratio.
Everything is ready for their arrival in Switzerland:
Amp: WiiM Amp Ultra.
Sub: Magnat Alpha RS 12 with a 80Hz crossover already configured.
Accessories: Speaker stands, cables, and anti-vibration pads are all set.
I'm so hyped to finally hear this level of performance in my 20m² setup. so I'm glad I went with such a high-quality "scientific" choice for my entry into the hobby!
wishing for you many hours of relaxation and pleasure with your new toys!
(and don't forget to rock out too...)
 
And I to you as one of our very first members. And probably the only one together with Sal still posting!
Still posting, nonsense!
Seriously though without you and ASR, well inconceivable.
Carry on carrying on.
Very Best,
Keith
 
Exactly. Who's laughing at a site that presents objective, scientific based audio data? Those who usually take issue ( from my perspective) usually occupy spaces that believe in things like musical cables/ amps, speaker burn in and having "golden" ears. Either that, or a product they like measures poorly. Some people seem to have a vendetta with Amir, but that's a personal problem...
It's the braying of jackasses.
 
Everything is ready for their arrival in Switzerland:
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I'm so hyped to finally hear this level of performance in my 20m² setup. so I'm glad I went with such a high-quality "scientific" choice for my entry into the hobby!
I'm glad you're excited, but I still think it's better to listen first and see if your expectations match reality, because if I understand correctly, you've ordered the equipment and speakers, but haven't connected them and listened to them yet.
 
I'm glad you're excited, but I still think it's better to listen first and see if your expectations match reality, because if I understand correctly, you've ordered the equipment and speakers, but haven't connected them and listened to them yet.
Fair point! But I've been using TV speakers until now, so the jump will be massive. I chose the C6B because they are neutral and designed to match the studio mix, Also, from what I’ve gathered, AsciLab offers performance levels that are basically unheard of in the current Hi-Fi market at this price point. Plus, Erin from 'Erin's Audio Corner' was extremely complimentary about them, and I trust his expertise. I’m confident I won't be disappointed!
 
I'm glad you're excited, but I still think it's better to listen first and see if your expectations match reality, because if I understand correctly, you've ordered the equipment and speakers, but haven't connected them and listened to them yet.
I agree that an audition is always better, but where could I possibly listen to them? Unless I fly all the way to their showroom in Korea, it's a bit complicated! For those of us buying from abroad, we have to rely on solid data and trusted reviewers. That’s why I’m betting on the measurements
 
I agree that an audition is always better, but where could I possibly listen to them? Unless I fly all the way to their showroom in Korea, it's a bit complicated! For those of us buying from abroad, we have to rely on solid data and trusted reviewers. That’s why I’m betting on the measurements
You’ve made a great decision. The measurements don’t lie and you can be confident you’ll have a great baseline to work with. The only things I’d recommend thinking about are the positions of the speakers in the room (you can experiment by ear, use REW software or study room interaction theory) to reduce the nulls and peaks in the bass region.

Happy listening!
 
Similarweb.com. SteveHuffman and Head-fi.org are the two other that are in our category of highest traffic:

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Their data is not as accurate as our internal one but as a relative metric, it works.
Congratulations, Amir. Doing this work for ten years has really educated a lot of audiophiles, and provided a forum for some of the very best in this industry. That's quite an accomplishment. And doing it for ten years now! Here's hoping the great work continues far into the future. You and ASR are appreciated.
 
Congratulations, Amir. Doing this work for ten years has really educated a lot of audiophiles, and provided a forum for some of the very best in this industry. That's quite an accomplishment. And doing it for ten years now! Here's hoping the great work continues far into the future. You and ASR are appreciated.
I am pretty sure without this forum I would have spend way more money on amplifiers/dacs, so it indirectly saved me thousands of dollars. On top I enjoy what I have learned here. It’s really appreciated thank you!
 
Oh I definitely believed in the words "sterile" and "warm" about amps before coming here. A testament being that I saw fit to buy a tube headphone amp.

To be fair I come from the guitar world where tube amps are a real thing.
 
FWIW, I went down the fully subjective rathole for brief period of time via What's Best, Audio Karma, Audiophile Style etc., which was an anomaly from
my long-term voyage with "Hi-Fi" dating back to age 15.
After awhile I started thinking honestly & logically again & realized that it was BS & not based on fact & Science but self-confirming bias & emotion.
 
You just realize that?
Outside this forum Amir and his cult followers are now laughing stock.
No reviewer should be involved in any business part of the industry. Like none, ever.
Whether you label it hype or zeitgeist, audio equipment continues to sell in proportion to current buzz. Successful salesmen ride the prevailing wave. The wave is continuously generated by reviews, forums, word-of-mouth, etc. We've seen it all before: What HiFi used to – and to some extent still – groom buyers into buying the same handful of brands at the same handful of retailers. Independent mom-and-pop dealers are locked out of that lucrative mainstream, so they have to ride smaller waves. But there's an inevitable symbiosis – a mutual dependence – between influencers and resellers.

ASR currently enjoys a position of influence capable of making or breaking a brand - eg, AsciLab. Smart resellers cosy up to that, pile on, and reap rewards. It's the way of the world. The lure has always been – and continues to be – performance and status. Whether the hook is science or a good-looking box, the psychology and economics remain identical: harness, focus and create the desire to spend; then continue to push that button: even whiter whites, even more sciencey-sounding technical perfection – even if that is proven to be long past a threshold of relevance.

We're in a moment when a simple numerical ranking of excellence resting on a permanent-seeming foundation is reassuring. But we're also in a moment when those technical differences are converging: in recent decades audio excellence has been increasingly democratised. But that doesn't touch the need for consumer therapy, or the status-endorphins generated by purchase and ownership of an on-trend device. People will keep buying new things, convinced by whatever prevailing wind says is the thing to buy – somewhat dissatisifed with yesterday's once-new thing. And all this will go the way of AOL. Meantime, subjectivists to our bones, we're all complicit: reviewers, makers, buyers – caught in the same churn.
 
Whether you label it hype or zeitgeist, audio equipment continues to sell in proportion to current buzz. Successful salesmen ride the prevailing wave. The wave is continuously generated by reviews, forums, word-of-mouth, etc. We've seen it all before: What HiFi used to – and to some extent still – groom buyers into buying the same handful of brands at the same handful of retailers. Independent mom-and-pop dealers are locked out of that lucrative mainstream, so they have to ride smaller waves. But there's an inevitable symbiosis – a mutual dependence – between influencers and resellers.

ASR currently enjoys a position of influence capable of making or breaking a brand - eg, AsciLab. Smart resellers cosy up to that, pile on, and reap rewards. It's the way of the world. The lure has always been – and continues to be – performance and status. Whether the hook is science or a good-looking box, the psychology and economics remain identical: harness, focus and create the desire to spend; then continue to push that button: even whiter whites, even more sciencey-sounding technical perfection – even if that is proven to be long past a threshold of relevance.

We're in a moment when a simple numerical ranking of excellence resting on a permanent-seeming foundation is reassuring. But we're also in a moment when those technical differences are converging: in recent decades audio excellence has been increasingly democratised. But that doesn't touch the need for consumer therapy, or the status-endorphins generated by purchase and ownership of an on-trend device. People will keep buying new things, convinced by whatever prevailing wind says is the thing to buy – somewhat dissatisifed with yesterday's once-new thing. And all this will go the way of AOL. Meantime, subjectivists to our bones, we're all complicit: reviewers, makers, buyers – caught in the same churn.

Not sure about this. I think you have missed the point of ASR.

In the past the buzz was marketing, hype, often for poorly performing "snake-oil" products. Essentially consumers were almost blind and led on by a sales model.

The only hype on ASR is to reward well engineered and objectively well measuring gear. The opposite is also true in that poorly performing gear is shown no mercy. Now there is the data to make properly informed purchasing decisions.

ASR should not be categorised with what went on before, and what still goes on in some places
 
Whatever the original purpose of ASR, it has (I think unwittingly) become a marketing influencer, and is actively ridden by wave-surfers to sell product.
Don't worry: the sales model is still intact: then, now and always: good reviews in the right places shift boxes.

One of the stated purposes of ASR is to deflate the hot air surrounding pumped-up claims justifying inflated prices. However, it's often admitted that there's little or no audible difference between quite wide-ranging technical metrics. Why, then, are people rushing to buy the handful of top-rated products in favour of the audibly-identical second-tier ones? It's not meaningfully about 'performance'.

Having said that, of course - it goes without saying - well designed equipment has intrinsic value. ASR has offered accurate, consistent evaluation of equipment on a previously unseen scale, and the world's a better place for it. It's also become a market-shaper with an opinion, with all the usual attendant pros and cons.

Take AsciLab: no question they're good speakers. The ingredients are good – we've been using them ourselves. The implementation is nice. I ike where they're headed. The price is not crazy when you factor in reseller margins and suchlike necessary evils. Will everyone think they 'perform' well? Probably not. Unfortunately, most buyers don't favour neutrality – otherwise a lot more studio monitors would land in living rooms. But are those punters wrong? If a customer buys a product that has less distortion, have they made a mistake? People like imperfection – that's why Alfa Romeo has a fan base and Hyundai has a customer base.
 
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I finally got the grills for the CB6 and installed them.
CB6 black grill.jpg

They look pretty good, simple and understated (and less tempting for 4yr-old's fingers).

But somehow white with the black seemed more comfortable for me, and then I figured out why. They reminded me of a friend that I lost a few months ago:
Emma and CB6.jpg
 
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