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Actually we’ve set the ratio of distribution : direct sales quantity almost as same as you wrote, 7:3. In our capable stocks.

Correlation is not causation. I have no doubt that's what you would see given your attitude towards international distributors, but good luck to you. I would never ever buy a product from a company that neither has interest nor service presence in my region, and just wants to drop the product with zero interest in growing local support, sorry.

Personally I think you're making a big strategic business mistake that will hurt your business success, but good luck to you. It's your choice.
 
for my previous post suggestions, i also would like to suggest: don't take anymore distributers on board if you can't fulfill the current ones.

also, there is something that goes a little against a general views here maybe but, there is a good book about organization culture in a company: Ethics & governance, Brooks.., etc, 2008.

one thing it talked about i believe is 'hidden power' in an organization..., organization here isn't important, what is important is that this idea reflects to other parts of the business as well.

you said: all distributers are respected equally. that's great.

but the thing about 'hidden power' is that, ex.: i could be a sofer for a big company president, while im not 'vice' president, i'm the one driving the president, getting to know him/her. <- this is 'hidden power'.

from my view asr put you on the map, i'm pretty sure audiophonics read it here, before becoming your distributor, even if audiophonics order is 10x times bigger, it's foolish to disregard this effect.

so there is that.

im a little tipsy tonight, so i'll better stop here, but i do hope these post finds some use here.
 
This is a shame, you only get one chance to make a first impression
 
I would never ever buy a product from a company that neither has interest nor service presence in my region, and just wants to drop the product with zero interest in growing local support.
If I could get my cute little white and orange F6Bs's, I would buy without regional support.

But I would have to know how long my wait will be, with some conservative accuracy. Don't tell me a month and it's actually three!

(For the record, I pronounce it As-KEE-labs and I just can't change.)
 
If I could get my cute little white and orange F6Bs's, I would buy without regional support.

But I would have to know how long my wait will be, with some conservative accuracy. Don't tell me a month and it's actually three!

(For the record, I pronounce it As-KEE-labs and I just can't change.)

And you might regret it very deeply if something goes wrong. This is a business where one unsupported problem makes us shun a brand forever.
 
(For the record, I pronounce it As-KEE-labs and I just can't change.)
Modelled on American Standard Code for Information Interchange, at a guess. That's how I first read it, but I did change.
 
I would also like to point out that none of us in ASR -and perhaps outside of it- would have heard or considered this company if Amir had not put them on the map with an enthusiastic price-value review. I also very much doubt Amir was motivated merely by $ to go as far as try to credibly represent and resell the brand in the US, I think a sense of audiophile egalitarian drive for audio quality for the masses made him embark on this journey. And I think Ascilab is repaying the man that put them on the audiophile map very poorly, and it is pathetic business form.

That's the only specific post I'll make as to this public outfall - my previous posts were generic and about tech business strategy. But as of now I'd never even remotely consider the product, but that's just me. There are several other similar -and better supported locally- options in the market.
 
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I would also like to point out that none of us in ASR -and perhaps outside of it- would have heard or considered this company if Amir had not put them on the map with an enthusiastic price-value review.
from my view asr put you on the map, i'm pretty sure audiophonics read it here, before becoming your distributor, even if audiophonics order is 10x times bigger, it's foolish to disregard this effect.

Erin from Erin's Audio Corner has published the C6B review on June 2nd, same day as Amir published the F6Bs review.

I get it, it's frustrating, but can everyone just take a deep breath and try to get back into the "objective" mode of operation? This thread has gotten way too hysterical for a science club.
 
Erin from Erin's Audio Corner has published the C6B review on June 2nd, same day as Amir published the F6Bs review.

I get it, it's frustrating, but can everyone just take a deep breath and try to get back into the "objective" mode of operation? This thread has gotten way too hysterical for a science club.

But there's the twist - this thread was not about science, it was about how to get the product and business success. I agree that ideally the fallout should have never been this public. But anyone that reads Amir's messages can sense the genuine passion for audio quality (and note I do not always share the same preferences, it's in my posting history), and he went out on a limb for Ascilab. In reading through this thread, I have more sympathy for Amir's frustration than Ascilab's glib "Thanks for the review and putting us on the map, but we'll sell direct to those who are willing to put up with unpredictable delivery timelines and no local support rather than a distributor that wants to enforce some professionalism in their local market".

Well, now I have made it two messages about the specific situation and I'll shut up.
 
Erin from Erin's Audio Corner has published the C6B review on June 2nd, same day as Amir published the F6Bs review.

I get it, it's frustrating, but can everyone just take a deep breath and try to get back into the "objective" mode of operation? This thread has gotten way too hysterical for a science club.
well there's that, but then there is distribution.

look, there is a way, it's just needs some hard re-adjustments i guess.
 
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Correlation is not causation. I have no doubt that's what you would see given your attitude towards international distributors, but good luck to you. I would never ever buy a product from a company that neither has interest nor service presence in my region, and just wants to drop the product with zero interest in growing local support, sorry.

Personally I think you're making a big strategic business mistake that will hurt your business success, but good luck to you. It's your choice.
...i actually got here by accident also, i viewed Erin's today video, and was curious what the commented S6B was, but yeah, hope these issues gets resolved.
 
It is very hard to properly discern tone and intent through translation services, but my goodness the Ascilab representative is not doing the company any favors with these most recent comments. It reads like a teenager is posting on social media, not direct to a distributor and many high value potential customers. Maybe they just decided the world is bigger than the US market.

He/She called ASR "reddit", sorry that's just crazy :eek:. If I had wired that much cash to a company, they better not post on a forum telling me to "get some rest". Amir has the patience of a saint.

It might be worth it to take a $1,000 USD flyer, on the cheaper passive units or just stick to purchasing if you are in Korea since the designs are spectacular on paper.

I was waiting for the active purifi units but that's no longer a consideration.

Good luck to those that have purchased so far. Take care of them, but his seems like a pump and go outlet, with no US warranty.
 
It is very hard to properly discern tone and intent through translation services, but my goodness the Ascilab representative is not doing the company any favors with these most recent comments. It reads like a teenager is posting on social media, not direct to a distributor and many high value potential customers. Maybe they just decided the world is bigger than the US market.

He/She called ASR "reddit", sorry that's just crazy :eek:. If I had wired that much cash to a company, they better not post on a forum telling me to "get some rest". Amir has the patience of a saint.

It might be worth it to take a $1,000 USD flyer, on the cheaper passive units or just stick to purchasing if you are in Korea since the designs are spectacular on paper.

I was waiting for the active purifi units but that's no longer a consideration.

Good luck to those that have purchased so far. Take care of them, but his seems like a pump and go outlet, with no US warranty.
He/She called ASR "reddit", sorry that's just crazy
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called DC inside "reddit" (o) : South Korea's community
 
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I’m currently using speakers from this company, and to be clear, the product itself is exceptional. In terms of performance and sound quality, there is very little to criticize.

The issue lies elsewhere.

This company operates at what feels like a near hand-built, cottage-industry level. Waiting periods of six months or more are not uncommon. It appears to be a brand founded and driven almost entirely by engineering passion, with limited capital and little structural preparation for scaling or operating in the global market.

In Korea, many customers have been unusually patient. People often say things like, “For the price, the level of engineering is remarkable,” or “The fact that a Korean company is making something this good is already worth supporting.” As a result, customers wait months, sometimes quietly, out of goodwill rather than contractual expectation.

From an outsider’s perspective, the company feels heavily engineer-driven, with little evidence of a dedicated business, logistics, or customer-relations function. This becomes especially noticeable when customers are asked not to make delivery or communication issues public, rather than being met with transparent explanations or even a simple apology.

Another concern is the pace and volume of new product announcements. New models are introduced frequently, even while existing products have significant backorders. From a customer’s point of view, it would make far more sense to first fulfill current orders, stabilize production, and then move forward step by step. Instead, the company appears far more focused on product development than on how those products are actually sold, delivered, and supported.

This creates the impression of a strong engineering mindset without a corresponding business mindset. It is difficult to avoid the feeling that the leadership itself may come from a purely engineering background, with limited real-world experience in running and scaling a commercial business.

The irony is that this is a company whose products deserve global attention—but global business requires more than world-class engineering. Clear communication, realistic lead times, disciplined product rollout, and basic accountability are just as important. Without those, even the most patient customers will eventually reach their limit.
It reminds me somewhat of Buchardt Audio of Denmark.

They had other models out for a few years, but when they released the S400 in 2019, they were still a very small company and demand absolutely spiked. Note that the C6B looks almost like a copy of the S400. It was certainly inspired by it.

There were production delays, but not as bad as Ascilab is experiencing. They were having them produced by Hansong at the time, who are a very competent outlet and were able to catch up with demand. They are now making them in Thailand but I don't know the details of that. They do final work and QC in Denmark and ship from there worldwide. No dealers in their case—first come, first serve.

But they focused hard on that one speaker for a couple of years before they introduced more products. A lot could probably be learned by studying them. They, too, only had a few employees but were able to power through and become successful.

Needless to say, your post makes complete sense to me from what limited bits I've read so +1 to this post.

I hope everything works out.
 
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Truly sobering to watch this kind of communication and business conduct. I do not consider buying their products any longer. Even being European and having Audiophonics as an option.
 
Following the drama here and the bad feeling I now have, I formally cancelled last night my pre-order for the C8C+BX8C by sending an email to AsciLab. I did this within 30 days of making the order and paying for the speakers.
I have not yet received acknowledgment to my request for a refund. I do hope they make good on their refund terms @AsciLab
 
Count me out as a future buyer (USA) of the C6B...
 
Likewise difficult to support this business given what has transpired in the past few days - sad to see as the product has all the right qualities to be successful
 
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