AsciLab F6Bs Speaker Review

[IanRoberts]

If I didn't already have a pair of Revel M106 I would pull the trigger on these (actually the passive radiator version Erin reviewed) immediately!

 

[Tovarich007]

Well, reading this post from Initiaman makes me feel lucky not to be an entrepreneur dealing with the U.S. and not to be an american consumer, but a citizen from a EU country practicing reasonably open economics.

 

[Lars Risbo]

Pretty standard tool in the “bag of tricks” available to speaker manufacturers. Many brands use similar phase plugs.

sure but it’s very challenging to get it to work so well as we see here. It can do lots of damage if not hitting it right.

 

[prerich]

with higher sensitivity you would have less bass extension. always a trade off.

Well it's not like it's putting out distortion-less subwoofer bass anyway. Like you said - trade offs.

 

[Lars Risbo]

well, it’s the infamous iron law. lowering distortion on top typically further lowers sensitivity.

 

[capslock]

No European dealer except for Purité in the UK, correct?

 

[Bleib]

No European dealer except for Purité in the UK, correct?

Yup

 

[capslock]

How did they get that deep dip at 1.1 kHz in the woofer response? XO with a notch filter? Or the peak at 1.5 kHz which is only 15 dB down from the averaged passband level a cone mode? I don't think so because there is no corresponding distortion peak.

 

[Billy Budapest]

There is currently no distributor or dealer in the United States.

OK—so if we order directly from the website, then we are responsible for paying import duty, should it be assessed by U.S. customs?

 

[Billy Budapest]

The price now includes shipping but in respect of tariffs / taxes payable by US consumers:

• Landed before 9th July: $725 list +extra 10% tariff / tax ($72.50) paid by consumer when it lands.
• Landed 9th July onwards: $725 list +extra 25% tariff ($181.25) paid by consumer when it lands.

Probably worth US consumers waiting a few weeks (before ordering) to see how the recent decision on blanket tariffs (being illegal) plays out. Might save a chunk of change should the decision be upheld in higher courts.

Never mind, I see this is explained above.

 

[Ktacos]

How did they get that deep dip at 1.1 kHz in the woofer response? XO with a notch filter? Or the peak at 1.5 kHz which is only 15 dB down from the averaged passband level a cone mode? I don't think so because there is no corresponding distortion peak.

It's a reflection from the woofer, likely the surround, which will only show up in close mic measurements of the woofer.

 

[BeeKay]

Yup

Voting for Audiophonics to cover the EU

 

[vinodk69]

Wondering if they should revert back to add on shipping so de-minimus exemption applies for F6B unless on invoice it clearly states the actual price without shipping costs.

 

[VientoB]

No European dealer except for Purité in the UK, correct?

Yeah, disappointing

 

[xanalog]

As an OTT (over-the-top) question; I would like to ask a tangential question about an annoying speaker design to @AsciLab:

Q: Why do so many speaker manufacturers insist on recessed binding-posts, which point to the [?] North Star?

I don't see any particular benefits of that orientation versus binding posts which are in the 3o'clock (x-axis) plane and are more preferable, especially if recessed. [imo]
Of the 5 sets of speaker pairs spread around the house, 3 of them have visible and excessive cables jotting out the rear, because of such angled posts.
They become a WAF issue!

 

[capslock]

Sorry if this has been answered before: Amir says they cost $575 a pair, but the Korean website lists them at $835 including worldwide shipping. Did they ship a huge container to the US and are shipping surface from there for US customers?

 

[BeeKay]

Yeah, disappointing

Does not need to remain so.
@AsciLab we are quite a market here. Any EU dealer of yours would be flooded with orders. Promised.

 

[Salt]

Voting for Audiophonics to cover the EU

You might address them @Audiophonics directly

 

[prerich]

For the life in me, I don't understand why this is still such a big deal to so many people.

Back in the old days, speaker sensitivity was important because amplifier power was scarce.

This is no longer the issue. It is so ridiculously silly to be talking about speaker sensitivity and low impedance as some sort of hurdle.

Go get yourself a Buckeye Class D amp for cheap and your done.

In today world, speaker sensitivity and low impedance is the no brainier area to sacrifice if you need design trade off's.

I have some speakers that are 82db/1watt and they get stupid loud in a 20'x25' living room with an A07. Definitely best to ignore sensitivity nonsense.

Not trying to be funny, but I haven't seen such a speaker ....82db/1w in a 20x25 room....sitting in the far-field? Name drop for me, as this is interesting to me. Maybe the Totem Mani 2 (I'm telling my age now), but those were hard to drive as well.

 

[Matias]

Now on spinorama.org.

Measurements for speaker AsciLab F6Bs

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