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It's a speaker that has an inverse loudness function built in. Many starts drooping bass instead.
I guess this little guy is a fun speaker.
It's about an octave lower usually IME.
Hopefully very soon.
Keith
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Thanks for the test Nuyes. 
Really nice speakers. I'm guessing it's SBs woffer in them. If it's who I think it is, it's a pretty good driver by the way. The driver is a good start, but it is not enough in itself. It needs a good construction and we have that with AsciLab. Very good work.
I wonder what kind of tweeter it is possible to set such a low crossover point with? Presumably in that case with a very steep filter to protect it.
I guess this woffer:
sbacoustics.com
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The only thing I'm thinking about is this what Nuyes wrote: The impedance drops as low as approximately **2.2 ohms** at its minimum.
It sounds like it could be a tough load for an amplifier to handle. Would an amp spec'd to handle 4 ohm speakers handle that without a problem?
Really nice speakers.
I'm guessing it's SBs woffer in them. If it's who I think it is, it's a pretty good driver by the way. The driver is a good start, but it is not enough in itself. It needs a good construction and we have that with AsciLab. Very good work.I wonder what kind of tweeter it is possible to set such a low crossover point with? Presumably in that case with a very steep filter to protect it.
I guess this woffer:
5″ SB15CAC30-4 / Ceramic - Sbacoustics
Vented cast aluminum chassis for optimum strength and low compression, geometrically reinforced ceramic cone for optimum piston operation and reduced break-up.
sbacoustics.com
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The only thing I'm thinking about is this what Nuyes wrote: The impedance drops as low as approximately **2.2 ohms** at its minimum.
It sounds like it could be a tough load for an amplifier to handle. Would an amp spec'd to handle 4 ohm speakers handle that without a problem?
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The tweeter ASCILab use is a sleeper. In fact its original incarnation has been on the market for at least a decade. One of the first products it appeared in was the Revel Performa 3, the OEM was SB Acoustics in 2013.
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Revel M106 Bookshelf Speaker Review
This is a review and detailed measurements of the Revel M106 bookshelf speaker. It was kindly purchased and drop shipped to me. It is not a new sample but came to me with full packaging and protective wrapper. The M106 costs US $1,000 each or $2,000 for a pair. It is only sold through dealer...
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Great review, thanks a lot Nuyes.
Obviously this smallest Ascilab is a very well designed and constructed speaker. It surely sounds great.
Nevertheless I have one question : you've done an in-depth review, but I can't find the "estimated in room response" graph ? Did you calculate it ?
It's my only minor concern, because this speaker is small and has a slightly lean bass response -like every small speaker, nothing wrong with that - and a super linear response from 100 Hz and above.
Don't you think the in room response could be slightly on the bright side (depending on the room reinforcement in the bass of course) ?
What is your opinion about this ?
Obviously this smallest Ascilab is a very well designed and constructed speaker. It surely sounds great.
Nevertheless I have one question : you've done an in-depth review, but I can't find the "estimated in room response" graph ? Did you calculate it ?
It's my only minor concern, because this speaker is small and has a slightly lean bass response -like every small speaker, nothing wrong with that - and a super linear response from 100 Hz and above.
Don't you think the in room response could be slightly on the bright side (depending on the room reinforcement in the bass of course) ?
What is your opinion about this ?
I'm assuming the same as in the A6B given the description "1" Alumina Ceramic Dome Tweeter with Custom Waveguide and Phase Plug":
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...re-about-to-launch.54794/page-14#post-2027208
Edit: they're also doing QC for every sample of tweeter.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...re-about-to-launch.54794/page-27#post-2083957
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Funny you mention the M106. I'm looking to upgrade from those to the A6B primarily for much better bass performance - I have no problem at all with the highs.The tweeter ASCILab use is a sleeper. In fact its original incarnation has been on the market for at least a decade. One of the first products it appeared in was the Revel Performa 3, the OEM was SB Acoustics in 2013.
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Revel M106 Bookshelf Speaker Review
This is a review and detailed measurements of the Revel M106 bookshelf speaker. It was kindly purchased and drop shipped to me. It is not a new sample but came to me with full packaging and protective wrapper. The M106 costs US $1,000 each or $2,000 for a pair. It is only sold through dealer...
Crossing tweeters this low being bad is a hold over from days past ime. It can be tough to get the filter task right passively but certainly not impossible.
Everything looks great but the impedence looks quite low, I don't think any of my amps are rated for 2ohm. If they can hit around the original suggested price of $1000 they should do well.
Everything looks great but the impedence looks quite low, I don't think any of my amps are rated for 2ohm. If they can hit around the original suggested price of $1000 they should do well.
Looks like the woofer used in Revel's PerformaBe series.Thanks for the test Nuyes.
Really nice speakers.
I wonder what kind of tweeter it is possible to set such a low crossover point with? Presumably in that case with a very steep filter to protect it.
I guess this woffer:
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5″ SB15CAC30-4 / Ceramic - Sbacoustics
Vented cast aluminum chassis for optimum strength and low compression, geometrically reinforced ceramic cone for optimum piston operation and reduced break-up.
Edit:
The only thing I'm thinking about is this what Nuyes wrote: The impedance drops as low as approximately **2.2 ohms** at its minimum.
It sounds like it could be a tough load for an amplifier to handle. Would an amp spec'd to handle 4 ohm speakers handle that without a problem?
So that makes this speaker a love child between the Performa3 and PerformaBe series. Great drivers to start with.The tweeter ASCILab use is a sleeper. In fact its original incarnation has been on the market for at least a decade. One of the first products it appeared in was the Revel Performa 3, the OEM was SB Acoustics in 2013.
View attachment 409438
Revel M106 Bookshelf Speaker Review
This is a review and detailed measurements of the Revel M106 bookshelf speaker. It was kindly purchased and drop shipped to me. It is not a new sample but came to me with full packaging and protective wrapper. The M106 costs US $1,000 each or $2,000 for a pair. It is only sold through dealer...
Great speaker and great review!
I'm kind of late to the party, but @Nuyes what kind of equipment do you use for measurements? I can see they are very closely matched to the NFS.
Regarding the tweeter... is this the SB Acoustics (Sinar Baja from Indonesia) ceramic SB26? What a great performer when paired with a waveguide! They seem to make very good quality and well designed transducers for all kind on industries. I am buying a cinema style QSC SR-8101 surround speaker which uses 1" silk dome tweeter, that I am mostly sure it's made by Sinar Baja and closely related to the textile SB26.
I'm kind of late to the party, but @Nuyes what kind of equipment do you use for measurements? I can see they are very closely matched to the NFS.
Regarding the tweeter... is this the SB Acoustics (Sinar Baja from Indonesia) ceramic SB26? What a great performer when paired with a waveguide! They seem to make very good quality and well designed transducers for all kind on industries. I am buying a cinema style QSC SR-8101 surround speaker which uses 1" silk dome tweeter, that I am mostly sure it's made by Sinar Baja and closely related to the textile SB26.
Yes… would appear to be a perfect match.
Keith
Keith
I would have preferred to not have a pronunciation in the 3-5kHz area. And maybe a little boost >10kHz.
But EQing is easy nowadays and the rest of the implementation ist very nicely done.
Looking forward to what price they can make in the European market.
But EQing is easy nowadays and the rest of the implementation ist very nicely done.
Looking forward to what price they can make in the European market.
SB Acoustics in itself a love child between Scandinavian Audio Research, (industry veterans from Vifa and Scan-Speak) and Sinar Bajar Acoustics.
Reference:
A new Speaker company, SCANDINAVIAN AUDIO RESEARCH
A New Loudspeaker Company from the Team that Developed the Scan~ Speak Revelator Line! I want to introduce you to a NEW speaker company. I am David Stephens; some of you know me. For those of you who do not, I was VP and Director of Sales and Marketing for VIFA and Scan~Speak in...
But we are digressing. Thanks for the data points…
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