Arylic LP10 Budget Streamer Review

[gamerpaddy]

its not terrible, its got soul.
slap it into a 50kg chunk of machined aluminium and add a few zeros to the pricetag. hifimags gonna love it. 6/5 golden ears.

 

[Power Pop 23]

Measurements seem to indicate that this device works fine with an external DAC. Well, to me, the Arylic mini analog out also sounds great...... At normal volume, THD is like 0.1%, so to me it seems plausible that this is compatible with "sounding great". Great speakers exhibit higher levels.

The WiiM players use linkplay modules as well.

Linkplay is the parent company of WiiM.

 

[SoySalsaPicante]

Measurements seem to indicate that this device works fine with an external DAC. Well, to me, the Arylic mini analog out also sounds great...... At normal volume, THD is like 0.1%, so to me it seems plausible that this is compatible with "sounding great". Great speakers exhibit higher levels.

The WiiM players use linkplay modules as well. The apps work cross-brand. Arylic, WiiM, Pro audio, Dayton, and there are many more. I have a low-end nedis as well. Measurements indicate that the WiiM equipment also measures up against the criteria of ASR users. Well, not sure if that is needed for the entertainment part ;-) Oops, not intending a fight here, just reflecting what is needed to get that quality for entertainment. In the end, I would be highly interested in real data, double-blind tested, on how various factors contribute. Is it THD? DAC jitter? Or more likely IMD and class AB cross-over distortion? Some amplifiers are susceptible to funny cross-over networks in speakers. Again, one of the reasons why class-D amplifiers are so great, not sensitive to loads. And almost no IMD.

Their older gear had LinkPlay modules but these newer ones do not.

 

[dweeeeb2]

I almost want to buy one so I can hear what bad sounds like!

 

[dark132]

I almost want to buy one so I can hear what bad sounds like!

Distortion can be transformed into enjoyment; otherwise, why would vacuum tubes exist?It's just that people are fascinated by the distortion of vacuum tubes, yet they criticize the distortion of chips, this is a double standard.

 

[SoySalsaPicante]

Distortion can be transformed into enjoyment; otherwise, why would vacuum tubes exist?It's just that people are fascinated by the distortion of vacuum tubes, yet they criticize the distortion of chips, this is a double standard.

They are literally different types of distortion with totally different acoustic characteristics. If you change the setting on your guitar amp, you change how the distortion sounds. Some sounds are great, some are just nasty.

Little to no distortion, however, is guaranteed to sound good.

 

[Ralph_Cramden]

Linkplay is the parent company of WiiM.

This thing doesn’t use Linkplay’s module.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...p10-budget-streamer-review.68331/post-2476165

 

[trevor_bartram]

Auralic went bust. Different company.

Thanks for the correction. Auralic is another streamer company. The similarity of the names must have caused confusion amongst consumers!

 

[dark132]

They are literally different types of distortion with totally different acoustic characteristics. If you change the setting on your guitar amp, you change how the distortion sounds. Some sounds are great, some are just nasty.

Little to no distortion, however, is guaranteed to sound good.

just adding a filter can simulate Second-order harmonic distortion, so it isn't a big problem

 

[Tatteredmidnight]

Very disappointing, very few streamers seem to support the cast protocol and a budget option to fill the niche left by the CCA would have been more than welcome.

 

[pehu63]

They are literally different types of distortion with totally different acoustic characteristics. If you change the setting on your guitar amp, you change how the distortion sounds. Some sounds are great, some are just nasty.

Little to no distortion, however, is guaranteed to sound good.

It would be interesting to know which level constitutes "low distortion". This thing gets burned down to the ground here, based on measurements, not listening.

BTW, interesting audio set up you have. The sub seems to use a feedback mechanism. The Philips MFB used an acceleration sensor, developed in the seventies, long dead. I never worked in consumer electronics or acoustics, yet my first manager in IT (1990), did a lot of research in acoustics. He researched the non-linear mathematics, now used by "method Klippel". Also did the echo chamber, as a poor man's klippel NFS. I discussed (well, listened...) audio topics many times during coffee breaks.

 

[VientoB]

Long live the Chromecast Audio

 

[SoySalsaPicante]

It would be interesting to know which level constitutes "low distortion". This thing gets burned down to the ground here, based on measurements, not listening.

BTW, interesting audio set up you have. The sub seems to use a feedback mechanism. The Philips MFB used an acceleration sensor, developed in the seventies, long dead. I never worked in consumer electronics or acoustics, yet my first manager in IT (1990), did a lot of research in acoustics. He researched the non-linear mathematics, now used by "method Klippel". Also did the echo chamber, as a poor man's klippel NFS. I discussed (well, listened...) audio topics many times during coffee breaks.

Direct servo-driven technology isn't new or exceedingly uncommon, though it has become less common in recent times. Rythmik is one of the few remaining consumer level subwoofer manufacturers still offering it. If I am not mistaken, Dynaudio used to, but my recent checks of their product line-up do not seem to yield anything with direct servo drive any more. It is nice to have, albeit not critical...REL subs have equally low group delay and phase consistency without direct servo control. I think it allows Rythmik to offer subwoofers for less cost compared to other subs of similar performance, but that could also be due to other reasons not related to the product specifically (direct to consumer sales, little to no marketing budget, etc.).

 

[Ralph_Cramden]

It’s non-Linkplay device and it does support Bluetooth.

Sadly, we have to migrate to other platform.

Linkplay no longer allowing them to use their modules?

LP10: No LinkPlay? No Bluetooth source?

It’s non-Linkplay device and it does support Bluetooth. Sadly, we have to migrate to other platform. So, you can’t use it as a master device and sync audio to other device like before. And you can get the multiroom feature through AirPlay and Google Cast.

forum.arylic.com

 

[tomtoo]

Sooo bad for the company. Its sad

 

[IngMishael]

Damn, that is rough

 

[MCH]

Probably because of the good results that raspberry pi streamers always get, I was under the impression that you don't need much more than a microcontroller and some code to build a transparent streamer. And according to the pictures in post #19 this thing has some complexity to it.
Now I wonder if this one was built by a team of absolute incompetent noobs, or maybe many other streamer solutions that we assume to be good enough, because it is just receiving and sorting out some bits (I have one that is literally a ESP32 ic with an antenna), are not as transparent as we think...

 

[john61ct]

The WiiM players use linkplay modules

Yes but Arylic's newer models, including this device does not.

> The apps work cross-brand.

Which is why this is no longer true.

Long live the Chromecast Audio

RIP more like

I almost want to buy one so I can hear what bad sounds like!

Make an offer! Dead serious

 

[OldTimer]

Linkplay no longer allowing them to use their modules?

LP10: No LinkPlay? No Bluetooth source?

It’s non-Linkplay device and it does support Bluetooth. Sadly, we have to migrate to other platform. So, you can’t use it as a master device and sync audio to other device like before. And you can get the multiroom feature through AirPlay and Google Cast.

forum.arylic.com

Linkplay begin to spread in Audio Pro products, W generation, more premium. Leaving cheap products except Wiim.

 

[ocinn]

The S10+ would have been a better one to test. Same livery as WiiM and lossless Airplay 1.

I have like 6x S10+ in an install I did last year. I really hope that the LP10 is just a weird fluke and the S10+ isn’t as horrible.

Not that it matters for my case, ambient noise floor makes THD irrelevant (background music system in massive soccer gym). Music is never even 10db over ambient.