Artemis Launch

[Peterinvan]

Despite the naysayers above, I have to wonder what the little UFO thingies zipping around are all about...

Don't worry. They will never land as long as we have Covid

 

[Blumlein 88]

The program total is projected to be $65B. US Population is, say 320M. My math says this $203,125 per US person.

Your math is off by 1000. It is $203.13 per person. Unless you are Eureopean and the comma is really a decimal point.

Plus cost estimates I've seen are currently around $28 billion so far. Expected per launch cost is $500 million (some think it might be higher). Not making excuses, the program is obscenely expensive and very under-performing. No need to exaggerate.

 

[blueone]

The program total is projected to be $65B. US Population is, say 320M. My math says this $203,125 per US person.

Huh? How? $65,000,000,000 / 330,000,000 = $197 per US person. Or is my Mac's calculator software screwed up?

 

[blueone]

Your math is off by 1000. It is $203.13 per person. Unless you are Eureopean and the comma is really a decimal point.

You beat me to it by seconds! I bow to the master.

 

[DonR]

The program total is projected to be $65B. US Population is, say 320M. My math says this $203,125 per US person.

My math says "per launch"

 

[blueone]

Bottomless pit it may well be - but eventually it will be cracked, and when it is the BP turns into the horn of plenty.

Yeah, but commercialization at best looks like my children's lifetime, not mine. Here's the latest fusion power news, and it cost gazillions to get this far:

Nuclear Fusion Energy Breakthrough: Ignition Confirmed in Record 1.3 Megajoule Shot

LLNL's National Ignition Facility achieved a significant milestone in fusion research in August 2021, with a fusion yield surpassing 1.3 MJ. The team is now working on improving the experimental design and understanding the new experimental regime for better fusion performance. After decades of i

scitechdaily.com

We're still decades away from commercial fusion power.

 

[Blumlein 88]

Yeah, but commercialization at best looks like my children's lifetime, not mine. Here's the latest fusion power news, and it cost gazillions to get this far:

Nuclear Fusion Energy Breakthrough: Ignition Confirmed in Record 1.3 Megajoule Shot

LLNL's National Ignition Facility achieved a significant milestone in fusion research in August 2021, with a fusion yield surpassing 1.3 MJ. The team is now working on improving the experimental design and understanding the new experimental regime for better fusion performance. After decades of i

scitechdaily.com

We're still decades away from commercial fusion power.

I do believe they also have run the same test and not been successful at recreating the event. They have failed to get those results in three attempts since then.

 

[DonR]

I do believe they also have run the same test and not been successful at recreating the event. They have failed to get those results in three attempts since then.

SMRs are the near future of nuclear reactors. Fusion was and always will be 20 years away, at least for the next century.

 

[blueone]

SMRs are the near future of nuclear reactors. Fusion was and always will be 20 years away, at least for the next century.

Agree. I like NuScale:

VOYGR SMR Plants | NuScale Power

VOYGR SMR plants, powered by the innovative NuScale Power Module, can generate up to 924 MWe of carbon-free electricity for multiple applications.

www.nuscalepower.com

Because they're small, standardized, and modular. Sounds like a better strategy than huge and custom.

 

[RayDunzl]

Because they're small, standardized, and modular.

"Gimme half a dozen for the ho-tel roooom!!!"

 

[Peterinvan]

Your math is off by 1000. It is $203.13 per person. Unless you are Eureopean and the comma is really a decimal point.

Plus cost estimates I've seen are currently around $28 billion so far. Expected per launch cost is $500 million (some think it might be higher). Not making excuses, the program is obscenely expensive and very under-performing. No need to exaggerate.

My bad. I used the European definition of a billion (a million million)

 

[JSmith]

Artemis 1 New Launch Date: Where And When To Watch NASA’s Next Attempt At Its ‘Mega Moon Mission’ This Weekend

After Monday's scrub there's a new Artemis 1 launch date as NASA goes again in an attempt to launch its Artemis I mission around the Moon.

www.forbes.com

Artemis-1 is now scheduled for a launch attempt on Saturday, September 3, 2022. The launch window opens at 2:17 p.m. EDT and closes at 4:17 p.m. EDT.

JSmith

 

[Vini darko]

They are fueling up now. Fingers crossed all goes smoothly today.

 

[Vini darko]

There's a leak problem again initial fix attempt hasn't worked.

 

[JSmith]

Scrubbed again...

Artemis I Launch Attempt Scrubbed – Artemis

blogs.nasa.gov

JSmith

 

[sam_adams]

See you in October.

 

[mhardy6647]

Well, at least they're not launchin', havin' stuff blow up and rain down fire on the spectators.
So, that's good.

 

[Marc v E]

I guess this is the right thread to mention a book that captivated me from beginning to end and changed my mind in favour of space exploration:

The Case for Space
By Zubrin

It's science based and explains thoroughly what needs to be done to reach certain parts of our solar system. And what benefits we probably get.

I would also like to recommend a small booklet on space travel and the likelyhood of extra terrestial life called Travel Agency Einstein by Vincent Icke. (Reisbureau Einstein)

 

[phoenixdogfan]

In other spatial news:

The Space Force Unveils its New, Sci-Fi Worthy Uniform

The uniform is a marked departure from the dress blues of the Air Force, from which the Space Force was spun off in 2019.

www.military.com

Well, apparently it's a prototype -- I guess this is a beta test.

So we're gonna have black shirts in space?

 

[Danaxus]

How many subwoofers do I need to properly experience the launch?