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Of the 6 items in the picture, how many % are made in the factory-of-the-world? 67%? 83%? 100%?
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Of the 6 items in the picture, how many % are made in the factory-of-the-world? 67%? 83%? 100%?
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Of the 6 items in the picture, how many % are made in the factory-of-the-world? 67%? 83%? 100%?
66.6%, tape deck came from the Land of the Rising Sun and the Blu Ray player came out of the Land of the Hornbill.
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Crutchfield USA usually prices new samples in even dollar amounts. New samples of select Revel speakers are now priced with '95 cents' in the asking price instead of an even dollar amount. This may reflect the cost of tariffs. Crutchfield now shows a price of $9,679.95 each for the Revel PerformaBe F328Be loudspeaker - up from $8,800 each earlier this week.
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Rotel a8 went up over the last couple of days from 449 to 499.........
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The de minimis exemption ends Aug. 29 for imports into the U.S., according to white house. The exemption currently allows imports under $800 to enter the U.S. duty and tax free. The change means a lot more imports will be subject to duties installed by the Trump administration.
Plan ahead. You don't want to be surprised?
Are the tariffs ever really imposed? Seems like a threat and then a deal is magically cut. In any case, I haven't been in the market and am totally happy with what I have until some "paradigm shift" really occurs. 
Are the tariffs ever really imposed? Seems like a threat and then a deal is magically cut. In any case, I haven't been in the market and am totally happy with what I have until some "paradigm shift" really occurs.
For me this whole situation says don't buy that nice amp from EU. You don't know when it gets delivered or what extra fees occur. It's pretty much the same with everything. A lot of cheap china gear is going to be much higher as well. I agree. Stay with what you have until madness is over.
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Regardless of whether the US government is collecting revenues as such, uncertainty is causing many vendors to raise prices or collect tariffs "just in case". Mouser and Digikey have separate line-items for tariffs, while Sony's camera strategy seems to be: Raise MSRP but offer Instant Rebates (but final price is nevertheless somewhat higher than previously).
As of July 30, 2025, the United States has collected approximately $150 billion in revenue from tariffs imposed during President Donald Trump's 2025 tariff regime. This figure includes a record monthly collection of nearly $28 billion in July alone, according to the Treasury Department. That doesn't sound like nothing?
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July tariff revenues break monthly record, with $150B collected so far in 2025
The U.S. collected nearly $28 billion in customs duties in July, the highest monthly total so far this year.
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As of July 30, 2025, the United States has collected approximately $150 billion in revenue from tariffs imposed during President Donald Trump's 2025 tariff regime. This figure includes a record monthly collection of nearly $28 billion in July alone, according to the Treasury Department. That doesn't sound like nothing?
July tariff revenues break monthly record, with $150B collected so far in 2025
The U.S. collected nearly $28 billion in customs duties in July, the highest monthly total so far this year.
If total annual imports are 4 trillion - that is 4 with 12 zeros - 10% of that is 4 with 10 zeros. That is 400 billion in tariff revenue per year, if 10% average tariff.
Fact check on that is welcome.
Divide by 12 of course to get monthly. And the average tariff won't be 10%. Who knows.
But 28 billion sounds about right, given that many tariffs haven't even yet started to bite.
Secondary effects are that imports will generally and slowly decrease from what they normally are.
Also would mean it's an additional "shadow" tax on US consumers (punishment for buying foreign goods), though. And with an additional $3Trillion in deficit the math doesn't yet add up for the better, but I am willing to wait for longer term effects.
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It's hard to know what numbers are real and which are fake. Tarriff rates are all over the board by country. Low = 15% high = 150%.
My guess is GDP calculations have been changed not to show vast government layoff impact. But without full disclosure it's hard to trust any of the current data being released. We have entered a period of political massaging of economic numbers.
My guess is GDP calculations have been changed not to show vast government layoff impact. But without full disclosure it's hard to trust any of the current data being released. We have entered a period of political massaging of economic numbers.
Even firing 100k federal employees would only save $20B assuming an average 200k salary+benefits (a simplistic calculation, but shows the order of magnitude is a small correction given the overall deficit numbers).
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Tariff revenue will fill the federal deficit a bit, like sticking a finger into a dike wall.
Tariffs are no "shadow" tax on consumers. You will notice them pretty painfully whenever you go shopping.
Although, other countries are used to sales taxes in general on all consumption (with exceptions), not just on imports. In Australia we have had a goods and services tax for 25 years of 10%. Europe has VAT, which I don't know much about.
That's the definition of a shadow tax (not an outright tax). If tariffs lead to price increases, and consumers carry the increased price change burden (plus the resulting sales tax increase, I live in California)... how is that not a shadow tax?
Of course I am free to decide what I buy or not. Of course I would welcome bringing back a lot of high tech manufscturing to the US (and I'd be happy to pay higher prices). But that transition is basically paid for by consumers. The government budget impact is through shadow tax, really. It is consumers who carry the burden of the tariffs if they decide to buy the product. Which I don't mind if it ends up benefiting the health of our economy during a transition phase, let me be clear about it.
But if consumers stop buying altogether because of that, all calculations kinda go out of the window.
PS: VAT in EU is 15%,but can be as high as 27% in some countries (Hungary). I live in California where the sales tax is 7.25% but also has a more obscure luxury tax I can't make sense out of even though I have lived here for 25 years.
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Consumption taxes suck monies out of those who can least afford. Check those new car prices, how long do you expect Ford to eat those
additional cost? Shift the tax burden down, grift the little guy. Get ready for a lower standard of living. Enjoy the ‘Muzak’… We really seem to
have few ideas about how to be analog in a digital world. At least I have my iems. Enjoy those ‘stable coins’, just don’t forget where you put your
wallet. Ohh, go ask the wizard, only he can fix anything. Now where’d I put those clothes…?
additional cost? Shift the tax burden down, grift the little guy. Get ready for a lower standard of living. Enjoy the ‘Muzak’… We really seem to
have few ideas about how to be analog in a digital world. At least I have my iems. Enjoy those ‘stable coins’, just don’t forget where you put your
wallet. Ohh, go ask the wizard, only he can fix anything. Now where’d I put those clothes…?
Noske
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I guess an issue in terminology. To my mind (in economics) the word shadow has a meaning in stuff like cost benefit analysis - a cost or a benefit that exists but is unseen, invisible, not caught by the market. Anyway. Different.
I saw a headline the other day by some Head saying that tariffs are the only way to drive back the efficient allocation of resources. That means relocating manufacturing. I bite my tongue.
A lot of things are said by people with conflicts of interest that are the opposite of what is true.
People will stop buying imports as the price goes up with tariffs. Buy American - that is one objective, of course, but they also want tariff revenue. So there ya go. Cake and eat.
So yes, calculations will adjust as peoples spending habits adjust. You may be surprised at how tariffs affect your budget even if you don't directly buy tariffed items. This is a widely held mis-conception.
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