Are you buying now because you anticipate higher prices?

[NADKEF listener]

This aids in confirming my disbelief. Conspiracy talk.

The only place everything is going to cost (a lot) more is in the USA. Some otherwise freely available stuff will also become scarce or unavailable, as that kinda happens in hermit kingdoms.

Elsewhere - there will be no price effect. Imported things will actually probably get cheaper without the US demand.

I have a subscription on The Economist and The New York Times, and if there is one thing clear, there are so many indirect effects due to the whole tariff rollercoaster. I agree this forum is not the place to discuss that all. But sharing some factual outcomes is not conspiracy talk.

 

[Bleib]

I have a subscription on The Economist and The New York Times, and if there is one thing clear, there are so many indirect effects due to the whole tariff rollercoaster. I agree this forum is not the place to discuss that all. But sharing some factual outcomes is not conspiracy talk.

Yeah, I can discuss politics basically endlessly but this would turn this place into moderation hell

 

[Salt]

Yeah, I can discuss politics basically endlessly but this would turn this place into moderation hell

So you keep calm ....

 

[Bleib]

So you keep calm ....

I'm not in USA so I won't face the worst of it. Although it's a disaster there are things which I'm even more worried about..

 

[amper42]

The tariffs will raise prices on everything. US citizens will pay more for everyday items. We could see inflation reach 6% soon. But in China it's a totally different story of manufacturing facilities closing, equipment being sold off and commercial real estate sitting empty. The courts will be full of bankruptcy filings and businesses looking for ways to ship through different ports. The impact on China business is substantial.

 

[Esprit]

Video: How China and the E.U. Are Reacting to Trump’s Tariffs

Ana Swanson, who covers trade and international economics for The New York Times, talks to Jeanna Smialek, The Times’s Brussels bureau chief, and Keith Bradsher, The Times’s Beijing bureau chief, about how Trump’s tariffs are playing out in Europe and China.

www.nytimes.com

 

[wadude]

Is there a, "Tariffs have kicked in, now I'm kicking myself!" thread? I had been thinking about picking up a 20-25ft aux cable and decided to get down to it. The one I found at CtoG was $6.99 until I clicked 'add to cart,' there the price reflected the addition of the new consumer tax: Now it's $29.99.

 

[EJ3]

Is there a, "Tariffs have kicked in, now I'm kicking myself!" thread? I had been thinking about picking up a 20-25ft aux cable and decided to get down to it. The one I found at CtoG was $6.99 until I clicked 'add to cart,' there the price reflected the addition of the new consumer tax: Now it's $29.99.

It does not matter.
In the end,
NO ONE GETS OUT OF HERE ALIVE, ANYWAY.
So: try to do good & enjoy it while you are here.

 

[EJ3]

It doesn't matter.
NO ONE GETS OUT ALIVE FROM HERE ANYWAY!
Try to do good & enjoy life.
You'll likely only pass this way once.

 

[Audionaut]

It doesn't matter.
NO ONE GETS OUT ALIVE FROM HERE ANYWAY!

Maybe
But don't forget: It's Easter

 

[EJ3]

Maybe
But don't forget: It's Easter

Well, they say that there is an exception for every rule!
As to the rest of us...

 

[Groove01]

A bit off topic but Germany could have won WW2 despite the disadvantages you state if they hadn't made so many bad moves.

Build U boats not battleships
Bomb airfields not London
Plan to defeat Russia over a 2 year campaign instead of a 16 week one
Move to total war economy in 1939 instead of 1942

And a lot more. Sorry, it's my pet subject.

I think they could have done a lot more damage for sure, but ultimately winning is an interesting question.

War ultimately comes down to logistics. Once the U.S. entered, Germany could not have sustained a long term, multi front campaign from a resources and population perspective. The hunter killer strategies became very effective against u-boats and keep in mind the U.S. was also fighting 2 wars, not just the European theater.

At the time, the sheer manufacturing might of the U.S. was unmatched and just kicking into high gear. The U.S. was resource rich and had oil/gas in plenty.

The Germans had superior technology (tanks, etc) but lacked the resources to produce more and the oil/gas to operate them. They couldn’t bomb the U.S. - but the allies could bomb them (aka - factories). The Germans didn’t have aircraft carriers in WWII.

I don’t see an outcome where they “win”, but it certainly could have been prolonged and much more devastating had they not invaded Russia.

At that time in history, with 100% commitment from the U.S., I don’t see an outcome where they win. Best case scenario is capitulation from the Allies. I think they knew what they were up against and went “all-in” from the get go with an unconditional surrender demand out of the gate.

 

[Soandso]

With regards to the percentage of exports going from China to the USA 2023 data (not sure about 2024) reported the total was 14.8% of all Chinese exports. However, the USA in 2023 imported about 22% of all the electronics which China exported. I have read reports that some Chinese manufacturers (not explicitly high end electronics) are reducing their prices to the USA in order to preserve their USA market share after this USA tariff add-on and yet raising their prices to other countries for the exact same products to offset that loss.

 

[EJ3]

In Germany means to be blue, that somebody has drunk to much Alcohol.

PS
My personal tariff program

Cheers

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Similar to my personal COVID-19 program: (I selected Jim Beam as the provider, though): 1 shot, 2 shot, 3 shot, 4
Ya, Ich war blau! Und gesund!

 

[NADKEF listener]

With regards to the percentage of exports going from China to the USA 2023 data (not sure about 2024) reported the total was 14.8% of all Chinese exports. However, the USA in 2023 imported about 22% of all the electronics which China exported. I have read reports that some Chinese manufacturers (not explicitly high end electronics) are reducing their prices to the USA in order to preserve their USA market share after this USA tariff add-on and yet raising their prices to other countries for the exact same products to offset that loss.

For that the WTO was founded. However, the USA has blocked the appointments of new judges. So, the WTO could not rule any verdicts, the past years.

 

[Oddball]

There are two separate issues here. It seems that purchases from the US will become more expensive, but then the question is how many really went down that route as shipping was always an issue. Put that aside, there is not much high tech that you can get from US anyways and especially with the new pricing models.

How will the rest of the world pricing to EU end up is to be seen. I am not buying as have all I want, but interested in how this whole thing play out.

 

[JeffS7444]

LOL where did my craving for a Steamdeck or SteamOS-capable PC come from? I guess there's nothing like the threat of shortages and higher prices to get a person into a consuming mood! Me and gaming go back a long ways, but most of my devices have ended up being eventually resold in "Like New" condition. Love gaming in theory, but can't really get into the popular post-apocalypse genre, wonder why. When the pandemic started, I was certain that it would kill of interest in anything epidemic/zombie themed, but what did I know.

New arrivals include a Parks Audio Waxwing DSP phono (very cool), a couple of 8 GB Adata-brand USB sticks, for use with an oscilloscope which doesn't recognize higher-capacities.

 

[amper42]

There are two separate issues here. It seems that purchases from the US will become more expensive, but then the question is how many really went down that route as shipping was always an issue. Put that aside, there is not much high tech that you can get from US anyways and especially with the new pricing models.

How will the rest of the world pricing to EU end up is to be seen. I am not buying as have all I want, but interested in how this whole thing play out.

The less you buy, the less Tarrifs will impact your life in the USA. However, it's clear groceries will be up another 10% soon and basic electronic, appliances, laundry and building supplies will be notably higher. Even a 10% tariff will make a significant difference. Your wage and retirement fund will not match the increase initially so most of us will show some austerity by buying less, yet spending more.

History tells us that companies remaining will do fine and even if Tariiffs are reduced later prices will stay high. Anyone telling you they can cut the cost of food or bring back the good old days should be considered untruthful. It never happens.

 

[Oddball]

The less you buy, the less Tarrifs will impact your life in the USA. However, it's clear groceries will be up another 10% soon and basic electronic, appliances, laundry and building supplies will be notably higher. Even a 10% tariff will make a significant difference. Your wage and retirement fund will not match the increase initially so most of us will show some austerity by buying less, yet spending more.

History tells us that companies remaining will do fine and even if Tariiffs are reduced later prices will stay high. Anyone telling you they can cut the cost of food or bring back the good old days should be considered untruthful. It never happens.

I am not in the US?

 

[Salt]

LOL where did my craving for a Steamdeck or SteamOS-capable PC come from? I guess there's nothing like the threat of shortages and higher prices to get a person into a consuming mood! Me and gaming go back a long ways, but most of my devices have ended up being eventually resold in "Like New" condition. Love gaming in theory, but can't really get into the popular post-apocalypse genre, wonder why. When the pandemic started, I was certain that it would kill of interest in anything epidemic/zombie themed, but what did I know.

New arrivals include a Parks Audio Waxwing DSP phono (very cool), a couple of 8 GB Adata-brand USB sticks, for use with an oscilloscope which doesn't recognize higher-capacities.

Thank You for the last sentence, as it is respecting the main thread title:

Are you buying now because you anticipate higher prices?​

We now are informed about 'terrifics' and how they may effect global markets and how people may react or not, why or not WW I & II could be or not won and and ....

So please: back on topic (and if only to give the former moderators some thanks for their work, and they did thoroughly, as can be seen here).