Are there any amplifiers you can recommend that are 300W or higher in the $5,000 to $10,000 range?

[Harmonia]

If you want to engage with us, please stop using AI to translate your text. Use a translator. ASR has a policy about AI chats, and I am very close to pushing the report button. I'll give you a bit of leeway because you are new, you don't know the policy, and for now I am assuming you are here to ask questions in good faith.

Thank you for the advice. I'm now checking and writing the text myself.

There won't be any problems now.

 

[Purité Audio]

Measurement led manufacturers will give you state of the art performance at relatively inexpensive pricing, ‘pride of ownership’ products will almost certainly not perform as well but look more imposing.
Keith

 

[voodooless]

please stop using AI to translate your text. Use a translator.

In general, I mostly agree, although I think some nuance might be needed. AI can be an excellent translator tool if used correctly. You'll need to instruct it to just translate your text as close as possible to the original without rewriting or adding anything. It will do very well, often better than other translation tools. As with most tools, you'll need to know how to use them to get the best out of them. And with AI, always check the result!

 

[Harmonia]

So, given that your basically looking for audio jewelry, it's safe to say that you're on your own. You'll need to find something that suits your visual needs. All we can do is give you some suggestions, but so can the nice AI tool that you've been using to communicate with us, or just Google for it

You may consider a different route, given that looks are important. Why not commission a custom build? For this kind of money, you can surely have an amp made in a fully custom case that makes it really stand out from the crowd. You can just fit one of the excellent Class-D kits in there, or maybe ask one of the companies that already sell this stuff to customize a case.

As for high-powered amps, this one surely would qualify:

Apollon Hypex NC2K Monoblock Amplifier Review

This is a review and detailed measurements of the Hypex NC2K based amplifier from Apollon. The unit was kindly purchased new by a member and drop shipped to me for testing. The NC2K has different options and starts at 1.990,00€ or US $2,342 as of this writing. The version I have has the...

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Though, probably one of the lower powered brothers and sisters of the Hypex or Purifi family would in general perform better if you really don't need the power reserve.

As @kemmler3D already mentioned, skipping the amps and looking at an all-active setup might be interesting as well. A combo like this is probably the very best one can buy for halfway reasonable money: Genelec 8361A + W371A

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Obviously, you may not at all like the look

.. Oh, and it will also save you on a kilobuck DAC because these things have everything integrated.

Thank you for the advice!

I just realized there are so many Class D amplifiers that allow me to choose custom cases and internal circuits. I'm very grateful to be able to learn this new knowledge. I'll take a good look at the products you've mentioned.

And I see you recommend Genelec a lot for studio-type active speakers. I've listened to Meridian and ATC quite a bit. ATC is still listenable, but recently Meridian seems to have too much bass output. I actually prefer their older models.

I don't like speakers that have excessive bass.

I'll definitely give Genelec a listen when I get the chance. Thank you!

 

[voodooless]

I don't like speakers that have excessive bass.

Make sure you have the possibility to EQ your speakers for taste and for room influences. Especially if you don't like excessive bass, room correction can be a very welcome thing.

 

[drodgers]

If you want to engage with us, please stop using AI to translate your text. Use a translator. ASR has a policy about AI chats, and I am very close to pushing the report button. I'll give you a bit of leeway because you are new, you don't know the policy, and for now I am assuming you are here to ask questions in good faith.

I don't think that's fair. LLM systems are by far the best translators available today, and we shouldn't penalise people who aren't fluent in english. I would suggest something like https://www.deepl.com/en/translator will be more reliable than ChatGPT even if it's similar tech under the hood though.

 

[ZolaIII]

Thank you for letting me know.
However, that's a PA AMP. I'm looking for a Hi-Fi designed AMP.

Well take a look inside one of those you will see pretty much same and better components (Elna caps, large toroidal transformer) not even to mention ADC-DSP-DAC included. Performance is close to 80 dB SINAD (with DSP in use) and would probably be even little better if they used better ADC. It won't hiss but it will have self noise you can hear in close range and when pushed hard (for which it's designed and none of those boutique one's ain't) you will hear fan too. If you think you know about AB topology you don't. That's flowering A-F (A+ cuple of B stages) in G variant. It's rigorous tested and quality if such a thing still exists in PA (and it does).
Happy hunting and hopefully you will find what you are looking for.
Edit: Check ATI Hypex and Purify lineups.

 

[antcollinet]

Oops. It's because I'm using AI to translate and write. This stupid AI gave me a strange answer. I'm good at reading English, but not so good at writing it!

Then use a translator, not an AI. Make sure it is translating YOUR words, not making up its own posts for you.

At the moment the AI is making you look like a troll - even if you are not.

 

[antcollinet]

LLM systems are by far the best translators available today

Which is fine if alll it is doing is translating. However, if it is writing the posts instead of just translating the posters own words, we are not interested.

 

[Harmonia]

Measurement led manufacturers will give you state of the art performance at relatively inexpensive pricing, ‘pride of ownership’ products will almost certainly not perform as well but look more imposing.
Keith

I completely agree with you.

Honestly, while people tend to dismiss them, I'm amazed at how accurately Chinese DACs reproduce sound. Products like SMSL offer precise sound for their price point, and their specifications are also quite impressive.

I've listened to many ultra-high-end DACs. I've heard quite a few DACs from MSB, dCS, CH, and others. But when I consider the price, the sound from SMSL and other affordable Chinese DACs is quite accurate.

Some people say they lack character in their sound, but accurate sound is inherently supposed to be unexciting. It's more important to find and listen to Red Book-level music that has been mastered to perfection and has good sound quality! The DAC just has to transmit the sound to the AMP without any distortion. Many people don't realize how important it is for a DAC to reproduce sound accurately.

Anyway, that's why I posted, wondering if there might be other HIFI AMPs with better performance for the price that I'm not aware of. Instead, I'm really enjoying learning about these modern-style products.

I'm not the type to stubbornly stick to old-fashioned gear. I'll definitely take a look at Class D amplifiers and studio monitor speakers too.

 

[Harmonia]

In general, I mostly agree, although I think some nuance might be needed. AI can be an excellent translator tool if used correctly. You'll need to instruct it to just translate your text as close as possible to the original without rewriting or adding anything. It will do very well, often better than other translation tools. As with most tools, you'll need to know how to use them to get the best out of them. And with AI, always check the result!

Thanks for the advice!

I'm using Google Translate right now and I'm editing the weird stuff myself.

So I don't think there will be any special problems!

 

[drodgers]

One of my personal philosophies is that the bigger the amplifier, the better! Of course, you can't connect 1000W to a bookshelf speaker, but generally, the more power you have in reserve, the better the system can produce its proper sound.

I'd suggest digging into this idea a bit more deeply before splashing down so much cash.

To propose something completely crazy at the opposite end of the spectrum from what you asked for, why not try a pair of Fosi V3 Monos first? It will cost 2% of your budget, to try them out (even if you don't resell) and I'd bet that you can't distinguish them from any other good amplifier in a blind AB(X) test! They'll also likely to go loud enough for almost any system.

 

[drodgers]

I'd also caution everyone jumping to use AI-checkers, they're not reliable either. Yes, obviously you can recognise classic AI slop with your own eyes, but an automated checker adds a veneer of objectivity that isn't really there. There just aren't enough bits available to distinguish most AI written text from human written text.

 

[Harmonia]

Make sure you have the possibility to EQ your speakers for taste and for room influences. Especially if you don't like excessive bass, room correction can be a very welcome thing.

That's right. Actively using EQ can ultimately allow you to achieve near-perfect sound in a single sweet spot for listening to music. I'm someone who supports the idea of actively using EQ.

However, many hi-fi and high-end users despise the use of EQ. They insist on achieving synergy solely through product matching.

Do you know why that is?
It's because hi-fi and high-end dealers and distributors do to run their companies.

A system that's too perfect leaves no room for dissatisfaction, so users don't feel the need to replace their equipment. It's only when there are shortcomings that users start changing components in their systems.
This is actually the biggest reason.

In PA systems, Room correction and EQ are used very actively. But in hi-fi and high-end audio, using EQ is seen as something very strange.

Even people involved in earphones or headphone setups (head-fi) actively use EQ!

As I mentioned earlier, I'm someone with an open mind, and I encourage the active use of EQ even in $100,000+ systems. I even help set it up myself! In a typical living space, it's impossible to place your speakers in a perfect position. So the easiest way is to use EQ!

 

[Harmonia]

Well take a look inside one of those you will see pretty much same and better components (Elna caps, large toroidal transformer) not even to mention ADC-DSP-DAC included. Performance is close to 80 dB SINAD (with DSP in use) and would probably be even little better if they used better ADC. It won't hiss but it will have self noise you can hear in close range and when pushed hard (for which it's designed and none of those boutique one's ain't) you will hear fan too. If you think you know about AB topology you don't. That's flowering A-F (A+ cuple of B stages) in G variant. It's rigorous tested and quality if such a thing still exists in PA (and it does).
Happy hunting and hopefully you will find what you are looking for.
Edit: Check ATI Hypex and Purify lineups.

That's right. I'm glad I posted this.

I feel like the knowledge I had was pretty old. I'll look into PA products without any bias.

Thanks for the advice!

 

[Harmonia]

Then use a translator, not an AI. Make sure it is translating YOUR words, not making up its own posts for you.

At the moment the AI is making you look like a troll - even if you are not.

Yeah, don't worry. I'm looking into it and writing it down!

 

[Harmonia]

I'd suggest digging into this idea a bit more deeply before splashing down so much cash.

To propose something completely crazy at the opposite end of the spectrum from what you asked for, why not try a pair of Fosi V3 Monos first? It will cost 2% of your budget, budget to try them out (even if you don't resell) and I'd bet that you can't distinguish them from any other good amplifier in a blind AB(X) test! They'll also likely to go loud enough for almost any system.

A palm-sized amplifier that produces 240 watts of power? I guess I'll have to test it to find out. I'll think about buying one.

 

[JSmith]

People! , you are getting your legs pulled .... at best.

User name checks out.


JSmith

 

[JustJones]

Reminds me of old excite

User name Ur_anus was second only to ben_dover.

 

[kemmler3D]

It's just that the design of studio monitor speakers is disappointing, so I'm willing to pay more for hi-fi or high-end speakers. But in terms of sound accuracy and performance, I've been feeling lately that studio monitor speakers are superior.

They definitely do not improve the average decor... it is what it is.