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Are Super tweeters worth it?
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Hello @617 and friends,
I just posted on my project thread! You would please visit my post for the details...
A new series of audio experiments on reflective wide-3D dispersion of super-tweeter sound using random-surface hard-heavy material: Part-1_Background, experimental settings, initial preliminary listening tests #912 on my thread;
Your visit and participation will be much welcome.
Let me copy-past here only two photos from there.
I just posted on my project thread! You would please visit my post for the details...
A new series of audio experiments on reflective wide-3D dispersion of super-tweeter sound using random-surface hard-heavy material: Part-1_Background, experimental settings, initial preliminary listening tests #912 on my thread;
Your visit and participation will be much welcome.
Let me copy-past here only two photos from there.
Dinesh Menon
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Your projects are so precise and exhaustive that they may exceed the R&D efforts of established manufacturers of audio systems.
I went through your project thread, discovered the intricacies and implementation of corrective measurements.
Frankly it's too complex for a newbie like me to grasp all the fundamentals of your research work.
Congrats & Best Wishes Sir.
Please continue guiding us.
I went through your project thread, discovered the intricacies and implementation of corrective measurements.
Frankly it's too complex for a newbie like me to grasp all the fundamentals of your research work.
Congrats & Best Wishes Sir.
Please continue guiding us.
I guess is better to post to existing thread? Isn't necro if the topic is still up in the Air. right?
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If current 2 or threeway tweeter can be pushed down to as low as 700hz and become a midrange...without destroying itself... then super tweeter might make sense.
normally a tweeter HAS to pull some midrange duty. If your two way bookshelf has good high frequency extension out to 20k already then pushing the crossover with your current mid much lower might damage the current tweeter.
All a super tweeter really is, is a tweeter with great hf extension, & sensitivity/dispersion characteristics geared toward absolutely none of the midrange. They're really just tweeter specific tweeters. So it becomes a question about current hardware limitations and if you would rather just upgrade to a 3 (3.5 or 4) way design with the harmonics driver you're after
Some.cases.you might be able to just upgrade your crossover network, drop in a different tweeter and you're off for a fraction of what you'd spend on those hifi set top things.
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If current 2 or threeway tweeter can be pushed down to as low as 700hz and become a midrange...without destroying itself... then super tweeter might make sense.
normally a tweeter HAS to pull some midrange duty. If your two way bookshelf has good high frequency extension out to 20k already then pushing the crossover with your current mid much lower might damage the current tweeter.
All a super tweeter really is, is a tweeter with great hf extension, & sensitivity/dispersion characteristics geared toward absolutely none of the midrange. They're really just tweeter specific tweeters. So it becomes a question about current hardware limitations and if you would rather just upgrade to a 3 (3.5 or 4) way design with the harmonics driver you're after
Some.cases.you might be able to just upgrade your crossover network, drop in a different tweeter and you're off for a fraction of what you'd spend on those hifi set top things.
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Velocipede_Acoustics
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Considering that many 1" tweeters tend to lose beam width around 8khz, then a super tweeter can help extend the high end for off axis listening which would be in the real of where most people can hear. Handy if you're seating is varied and/or wide.
There are plenty of speakers (even kind of affordable) with HF extension up to 30-40kHz and some a bit more expensive ones up to 75kHz. I think the only point to get a super tweeter would be for the dispersion characteristics and adjustable level, the rest comes with simply better speakers. Not sure if it has to be a tweet specific tweeter for other reasons than these two?
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Hello! Has anyone tried this as a supertweeter? I would like to try it as a cheap, nice, additional tweeter, e.g. with a series 680 nF-1 uF capacitor (I don't know the exact value, say it would enter the switching around 8 kHz). Stupidity? My current speaker is a rebuilt Klipsch R-28F from which I threw out the funnel tweeter. Instead, a Monacor Dt-300 works, approx. up to 18 kHz, but above 12 kHz its transmission gradually slows down. So it's a simple thing, the final stage is an Aiyima A70. Thank you.
Hello! Has anyone tried this as a supertweeter? I would like to try it as a cheap, nice, additional tweeter, e.g. with a series 680 nF-1 uF capacitor (I don't know the exact value, say it would enter the switching around 8 kHz). Stupidity? My current speaker is a rebuilt Klipsch R-28F from which I threw out the funnel tweeter. Instead, a Monacor Dt-300 works, approx. up to 18 kHz, but above 12 kHz its transmission gradually slows down. So it's a simple thing, the final stage is an Aiyima A70. Thank you.
yes, because the dt300 is a popular tweeter. Its transmission is not that bad and it can be shifted low. Perfect for a 2-passenger box. I would like to "support" the very top with a super tweeter. If anyone knows the model I linked...
This. I have a pair of Fostex FT96 supers I bring in around 9khz first order on my horn system which has old 80s emilar drivers on 2" 500hz CD Renkus Heinz horns. A bit less distortion this way vs. using 10 - 12db of HF compensation and I like that I can push the image a bit wider or narrower by positioning these inside or outside the CD horns instead of centered. Or point them backwards. Or straight up at the ceiling. It's all fair game.
I must thank you because your posts inspired me to try some bullet tweeters NOT firing forward. I ended up really liking the results when some JBL clone bullet tweeters were fired straight up to the ceiling..
Thank you for your kind attention on my experiments.
I have further continued the experiments towards present (almost finalized) "reverse straight wide 3D reflective dispersion" setup as you can find in these posts on my project thread;
- A new series of audio experiments on reflective wide-3D dispersion of super-tweeter sound using random-surface hard-heavy material:
Part-1_ Background, experimental settings, initial preliminary listening tests: #912
Part-2_ Comparison of catalogue specifications of metal horn super-tweeter (ST) FOSTEX T925A and YAMAHA Beryllium dome tweeter (TW) JA-0513; start of intensive listening sessions with wide-3D reflective dispersion of ST sound: #921
Part-3_ Listening evaluation of sound stage (sound image) using excellent-recording-quality lute duet tracks: #926
Part-3.1_ Listening evaluation of sound stage (sound image) using excellent-recording-quality jazz trio album: #927
Part-4_Provisional conclusion to use Case-2 reverse reflective dispersion setting in default daily music listening: #929
Consequently, including the result of above experimental series, I updated the details of the latest setup of my DSP-based multichannel multi-SP-driver multi-amplifier fully active audio system in my post #931 on the project thread.
- The latest system setup of my DSP-based multichannel multi-SP-driver multi-amplifier fully active audio rig, including updated startup/ignition sequences and shutdown sequences: as of June 26, 2024: #931
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