So it does not phase me in any way that the movie has colored people in it.
I understand you to avoid politicization of the thread (and ASR in general). But we can't escape from the fact that the story, supposedly on Tolkien, so obviously meets the current imperative for "diversity" when Tolkien's idea of diversity, by contrast, was Elf vs. Dwarf vs. Human.
Humm ... well Tolkien has be dead for decades and, anyway, he wrote the LoTR decades before his death. It's anachronistic to ascribe current diversity sensibilities (-- or Wokeness) to Tolkien. If somehow we could convey the current series back to Tolkien in the days he was writing LoTR, I think would find its diversity puzzling if not gratuitous. (I'm not imply that Tolkien was racist in any degree.)
Can someone actually explain to me why people think this is the case?
And I thank you.
Svartálfheim (literally the home of the black elves) is one of the nine (or ten) realms of Norse mythology. Black Elves are also called Dvergs. Who are, you guessed it,
Which is just rationalizing lipstick on a pig. The reason there are black elves and dwarves in this series has nothing to do with anything you wrote or anyone thinking about any of that as a reason to have them. Virtue signaling is the reason. Or maybe needed to meet the racial quotas mandated for many of the awards given out in entertainment currently.
I'm sorry but what I don't get is to ascribe something to Tolkien when he literally wrote thousands of pages and describes exactly how main characters looked. Departures should add something or at least not take away from it. Think terrible casting like Tom Cruise in Interview with a Vampire. On the other side of the coin, it didnt bother me that Liet Kynes changed gender and probably race in Dune bc it didnt turn the story upside down. And I think of the Expanse where the series was totally polyglot and it all worked...because somehow it was pretty faithful to the story and it was well done. This Amazon deal is just insipid and it's like the writers and producers are playing LOTR Madlibs with the text or doing fan fiction by committee.
what racist comments were posted here? i dont see any.
Who cares? European racism is a relatively recent thing anyways, nor is it particularly about europe. They're actors....may as well complain about all the christian idiots who perceive hay-sus as a white guy.
Tolkein is not who wrote about dwarves in Svartalfheim. The racial quotas for awards are a fact.
you mentioned the " w " three times now . lets have box for every time someone says the " w " got put $1 dollar in it lol
Elves are also supposed to be very tall/athletic/good looking....I think this new series has made some compromises there and just makes them have pointy ears.....Elves and humans don't get along usually. Elves are sort of similar to Vulcans, though sometimes not as logical as a typical Vulcan when making choices. Hey that's not racist when discussing different species.
Curious, how do you rank LoTR vs Hobbit? Loved LOtR and the general adhering to the books, but the Hobbit kinda blew that apart. I still enjoyed both of course (and I own the the 3d extended blurays of Hobbit and the regular extended bluray for LoTR). I first read the books almost 50 years ago, and I do need to re-read them to criticize particular disgressions but in the meantime will just take the tv series for what it is, a pretty good production value oddity.
Curious, how do you rank LoTR vs Hobbit? Loved LOtR and the general adhering to the books, but the Hobbit kinda blew that apart. I still enjoyed both of course (and I own the the 3d extended blurays of Hobbit and the regular extended bluray for LoTR). I first read the books almost 50 years ago, and I do need to re-read them to criticize particular disgressions but in the meantime will just take the tv series for what it is, a pretty good production value oddity.
