Anyone else not like HDR added to old movies?

[Kain]

When the 4K Blu-ray of old/older movies is released, it also has HDR. To me, HDR looks "off" on old movies but works on new movies. I'm not sure what it is that makes HDR work on new movies but not old (could it be because new movies are shot with HDR in mind thus having better results?).

 

[respice finem]

Just a thought: The "added" (or restored) dynamic range is probably OK - but since we have seen the old version, we perceive it as wrong.
This is common not only in audio / video. I call it "coffee vending machine syndrome" - one that drinks horrible coffee every day may find good coffee tasting "off".

 

[Andysu]

hdr hdr+10 dolby vision is switched off don't use it its unnecessary and looks dreadful

 

[-Matt-]

When the 4K Blu-ray of old/older movies is released, it also has HDR. To me, HDR looks "off" on old movies but works on new movies. I'm not sure what it is that makes HDR work on new movies but not old (could it be because new movies are shot with HDR in mind thus having better results?).

Before blaming the Blu-Ray, which spectrophotometer and software did you use to ensure that your TV is correctly calibrated for HDR?

(Note that different calibration targets are required for SDR and HDR content).

When SDR content is remapped to HDR (by the Blu-Ray creator) they have follow standards and also make some assumptions about the capabilities of the eventual output device. (For example, what is the highest peak hdr brightness that the TV can achieve)? I think 1000 nits is a commonly assumed value. This mapping is baked into the Blu-ray.

When your TV displays that Blu-ray it again remaps the video levels (but this time it knows what peak brightness it can achieve). If your TV falls far short of the previously assumed 1000 nits (eg can only achieve 700 nits) then the mismatch between the two mappings (the one baked into the blu-ray and your TVs own one) can cause a colour skew.

When a new HDR movie is made the Blu-ray creator just uses the colour standard, and your TV applies it own remapping when it displays it. The TV's internal mapping was designed to get acceptable HDR performance in this scenario (even though the overall image may be dimmer, if it has lower peak nits).

In summary, the most likely reason that you see skewed colours is that your display calibration differs from the expected standard.

 

[stalepie2]

How old are we talking? But I agree... I think. Except sometimes i thought it looked like they did a marvelous job, like Blade Runner's 4K/UHD. I got the Umbrella edition of Possession (1981) recently instead of the new Second Sight one in part to avoid HDR (but it's 4K SDR) and I think some of Criterion's older 4K/UHD Blu-ray releases did not have HDR. I wish more that it was a selectable option, rather than baked in to the video file, like selecting audio versions. Apparently simply turning off HDR on your TV or player is not the same effect as a properly mastered 4K-SDR presentation (according to some people that replied to me on blu-ray.com about this).