Andrew Jones’s new speaker brand - Jones and Cerreta

[Richard G]

We need a betting pool on the price.

I got dibs on $28K/pair

Field coils … could easily be north of 30

 

[Frank Dernie]

Not exactly competing in the same market. Or decade

Or country!
If he is referring to the Empire turntable of that name it was not sold here, and I only found it had existed many years later.
I have, OTOH, very fond memories of hearing young musicians starting out at the Troubador Folk and Jazz club in London in the 1960s.

 

[Frank Dernie]

Craze? If there is a craze it isn’t exactly dominating the market!

Not at all!
Most people want tiny speakers and small and high efficiency are at opposite ends of the spectrum.

 

[Chromatischism]

is a correlation between purchasing based on measurements and not spending much a known thing??

I would be willing to bet there is a strong correlation.

 

[levimax]

power is cheap and providing 100W is easy, so there is no need for uber high sensitivity.

Unless you want to be able to reproduce 105 dB or 110 dB peaks. As mentioned less efficient speakers, even when fed with lots of modern cheap power, are just not going to get there due to not being able to dissipate the heat.

 

[Bwaslo]

That's peak power, not average. Heating will be proportional to average power.
Also:
sengpielaudio.com/PermissibleExposureTime.htm

 

[Audionaut]

What are they? BMS? 18Sound …

Sica 8CX2.5PL
B&C 8CXN64
BMS 10C262

 

[Paul7777x]

This sounds like a game of trade-offs. Jones is nostalgic, needed business partners, the Cerreta's love tubes...and the rest is history.

I’d not call him nostalgic I think.

But he is certainly aware that so many are.

And that many of them have money, so he and his partners are aiming for that market in a, literally, big way.

And with a view to making, I’d expect, a seriously big profit.

 

[Vuki]

I’d not call him nostalgic I think.

But he is certainly aware that so many are.

And that many of them have money, so he and his partners are aiming for that market in a ‘literally, big way.

And with a view to making, I’d expect, a seriously big profit.

Yes, he's Lex Luthor of audio.

 

[Mnyb]

Yes, every now and then it’s quite useful to remind ourselves of these dynamics. DSP and PEQ are extremely useful when they help guide suitable drivers along a natural path.
In my opinion, they’re harmful when they try to reproduce something that’s only possible within very narrow limits. That can sometimes feel like an unpleasant distortion of the speaker’s natural sound.

It’s often inefficient or impossible to fill the ”holes” they are often cancellations, they just cancel more and leads to bass overload somewhere else in the room and overload the speaker etc .

Shave of the peaks/bass resonances with room EQ don’t do much above 200-300 Hz depending on room size .

 

[DSJR]

Or country!
If he is referring to the Empire turntable of that name it was not sold here, and I only found it had existed many years later.
I have, OTOH, very fond memories of hearing young musicians starting out at the Troubador Folk and Jazz club in London in the 1960s.

Umm, you mean the Empire 698 Troubadour model? We had one on dem and very good it was too (even better for modern pickups today).

Sadly, a certain 'beefed up Thorens TD150' turntable appeared and basically took over in these parts, so the Empire, on dem about a year, was sold off as ex-dem in a 'sale,' along with the equally excellent Sony 8750 we had and which I greatly admired for its performance and sonics too.

https://www.worldradiohistory.com/UK/Hi-Fi-Choice/1975-1982/Hi-Fi%20Choice%20Iss.%20005%20Turntables%20&%20Cartridges%201977.pdf

Page 116

 

[Frank Dernie]

Umm, you mean the Empire 698 Troubadour model? We had one on dem and very good it was too (even better for modern pickups today).

Sadly, a certain 'beefed up Thorens TD150' turntable appeared and basically took over in these parts, so the Empire, on dem about a year, was sold off as ex-dem in a 'sale,' along with the equally excellent Sony 8750 we had and which I greatly admired for its performance and sonics too.

https://www.worldradiohistory.com/UK/Hi-Fi-Choice/1975-1982/Hi-Fi%20Choice%20Iss.%20005%20Turntables%20&%20Cartridges%201977.pdf

Page 116

Wow, I had no idea Empire stuff was available in the UK.
I bought an Empire cartridge when I was in the US on a student exchange in 1970, but hadn't seen them here.

 

[DSJR]

Wow, I had no idea Empire stuff was available in the UK.
I bought an Empire cartridge when I was in the US on a student exchange in 1970, but hadn't seen them here.

It appears Hayden Labs as-was distributed them (I remember them more as Denon suppliers). Empire cartridges had lousy diamonds fitted in most lower models and very high compliance I recall (I have a little known 2000E IV, the IV definitely printed on the body - diamond is a rough finished almost-conical under a 'scope and it tracks at 1.25g max- sounds okay actually).

 

[Stanny1]

If you want displacement and easy 100db SPL, and a much better value, check out the Tekton Design MOAB.

 

[dfuller]

If you want displacement and easy 100db SPL, and a much better value, check out the Tekton Design MOAB.

Lol.

 

[Ktacos]

Kind of looks like some sort of appliance.

 

[Timcognito]

Kind of looks like some sort of appliance.

Yeah if they came in white porcine or stainless my wife might let me get them for the garage.

 

[MattHooper]

A new Jana video with Andrew talking about (and showing) the drivers:

Quick summary:

It contains interviews with the two brothers funding the company and their backgrounds. Andrew discusses the specific designs of the drivers, sensitivity, crossovers and other details.

 

[Pearljam5000]

I wonder why he didn't use a Beryllium tweeter like the one that TAD has , it looks just like the Mofi tweeter, I would expect a more expensive speaker to have more expensive materials

 

[RexrothPigeon]

Like the previous video, this one is marked (where I live) with "Includes Paid Promotion," so it's an ad. Make of that what you will.