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Andrew Jones’s new speaker brand - Jones and Cerreta

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This looks like AI.
The proportions and perspective look all wrong to me!
If real, looks like it will play quite loud!
I like them loud - but also cheap :facepalm:. You are right, perspective is all wrong, so something seems to be off.
 
How can it be AI if you can see every detail of the speaker in the video
 
How can it be AI if you can see every detail of the speaker in the video
Look at his foot - it's all the way in front of the speaker. And his upper body seems to be behind the speaker. While speaker seems to be at pretty deep. Don't think it is just keystone effect - but have been proven wrong many times before...
 
Size looks just about right, and with room to spare at the bottom (I hate stands, another 15" maybe?) and it would compete with big boi Genelecs .

As Jones is usually solid about his choices, I'm really curious to see this measured (and listen to it in person, measurements are just a hint about what can kick and what can't, other than SPL which is not the only factor) .
 
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This looks like AI.
The proportions and perspective look all wrong to me!
If real, looks like it will play quite loud!


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And video here :

 
Here with another guy posing with 'em
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So why spend it on something with relatively poor performance?

Who says it has poor performance, just because some technology is implemented that might be costly relative to the advantages it is offering?

I have heard similar statements about the Beryllium coaxial, particularly from pro audio people, before AJ introduced his mastering reference speakers back in the days. Interestingly, comments about high pricing vanished, at least from those who have heard the speakers in question.

In my understanding, value for money of speaker components is not so much of an issues north of 40 Grand. You buy what gave you the experience you want, that is it.

the only field coil speakers I've ever had a listen to which were embarrasingly bad and cost north of £30K.

Ever tried Focal Stella Utopia EM?
 
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And video here :

Definitively thanks for sharing. These are hugely interesting, for informational purposes unfortunately (at least for me), coming from D&D. And additional sub modules, lol. I wonder if they will so some more DSP work for such bass power.
 
Who says it has poor performance,
I did say relatively poor performance - no point spending 30 grand for something you could have for five. Also I was not talking about these specific AJ speakers about which we know little so far, but on your value for money comment in general. Value exists at all price levels as does lack of it. It's not something only Best Buy customers with a few hundred to spend need to concern themselves with.

Plenty of people can buy 40 grand speakers. Very few people can spend 40 grand and say 'Oh that didn't work out. Never mind. Lots more in the bank.'
 
Definitively thanks for sharing. These are hugely interesting, for informational purposes unfortunately (at least for me), coming from D&D. And additional sub modules, lol. I wonder if they will so some more DSP work for such bass power.
About the new 15C

 
Plenty of people can buy 40 grand speakers. Very few people can spend 40 grand and say 'Oh that didn't work out. Never mind. Lots more in the bank.'
There's another category, the ones who may want to buy (period) instead of paying some tax (depending on the company scheme and naming of the item, for example some may baptize them as " Public address ,conference system" ) so they come literally for free.
 
I did say relatively poor performance - no point spending 30 grand for something you could have for five. Also I was not talking about these specific AJ speakers about which we know little so far, but on your value for money comment in general. Value exists at all price levels as does lack of it. It's not something only Best Buy customers with a few hundred to spend need to concern themselves with.

Plenty of people can buy 40 grand speakers. Very few people can spend 40 grand and say 'Oh that didn't work out. Never mind. Lots more in the bank.'
Lol, can't say I know many where I currently live. Most are driving 100 km/h on motorway to save petrol. Was living in areas like NYC, London or Middle East large cities where such money was trivial for some of the population though.

Spent more than 40 grand for the speakers for sure, but like 17 of them.
 
Currently low production makes them cost prohibitive but are there any reasons why field coils are inherently more expensive?
From my almost nonexistent experience, the copper for the coil costs a good bit more than a neodymium magnet, and way more than a ceramic magnet. A field coil also requires more steel in the magnetic circuit. Then there's the cost of the power supply (not so bad now vs decades ago).
 
They are real 15” on the front and two more on the back.
Keith
 
There's another category, the ones who may want to buy (period) instead of paying some tax (depending on the company scheme and naming of the item, for example some may baptize them as " Public address ,conference system" ) so they come literally for free.
There is those. Years ago a pal of mine has an I.T company, spent 6 grand on a plasma TV. I asked him if he bought it on his company. He said no. He didn't want any potential hassle from the taxman over it and since he could easily afford it anyway, why take a chance?
 
Field coil loudspeakers are a relict from the time (~ 100 years ago) when it was hard to make a good permanent magnet. Back draw is that a power supply is needed, benefit can be that the magnetic field strength can be adjusted by the field coil current flow.
 
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