Andrew Jones’s new speaker brand - Jones and Cerreta

[amirm]

The side effect of such efficiency is not about the small tube amps only.
Is also about this super clean small amps at the top of the list, which I suspect would gloriously drive it to reference levels (we have to see multitone tests and compression tests as well though) .

I don't think the target market for this speaker buys small amps. One would need a high performance amp to be sure to keep noise down. Seems to me Topping B200 would be the appropriate choice, even though most of their customers will opt for tube amps and such.

 

[Sokel]

I don't think the target market for this speaker buys small amps. One would need a high performance amp to be sure to keep noise down. Seems to me Topping B200 would be the appropriate choice, even though most of their customers will opt for tube amps and such.

That's the list I was referring to, B200 or LA90, with the appeal it may have for the non class D crowd.
Purifi would be total overkill.

 

[SigbergAudio]

Some interesting solutions here. The appearance is growing on me a bit as well as I see more details in the video.

 

[PGansz]

"Troubadour" does not bring positive connotations...

 

[Jmsent]

I just don't get the field coil thing that he's come up with. About the only mentioned parameter improvements he mentioned were high BL and lower flux modulation. But the drawbacks are substantial: high cost, a 36 lb. magnet system that has to be externally supported, an external calibrated power supply, power consumption, and heat....right where you don't want it, in the voice coil gap. Modern magnet system design, using FEA and computer simulation, is a very highly advanced science, that has already addressed both flux density and flux stability, so I don't see how these field coils bring anything further to the table. The overall challenge for system sensitivity depends on the bass section anyway, far more than the upper frequencies, and that's a PM design in this system. So the field coil strikes me as a "gimmick" more than anything else, to complement the "vintage vibe" of the system as a whole.. Imagine the cost impact just based on the added weight, steel, copper, bracing, power supplies, etc. This is not going to be a "bargain basement" speaker.

 

[Purité Audio]

But scores high on the Audiophile ‘Bingo’ card.
Keith

 

[Jmsent]

But scores high on the Audiophile ‘Bingo’ card.
Keith

Well, yes. There's that.

 

[kharan]

"Troubadour" does not bring positive connotations...

Why? It's just another word for "bard", the French equivalent really.

 

[Pearljam5000]

It's the world's first field coil coaxial driver
I guess people would want that

 

[mhardy6647]

Nothing against the sensitivity 95 in marketing speak is probably 92 for real .

92 dB will suffice.

 

[mhardy6647]

It's the world's first field coil coaxial driver
I guess people would want that

No, it's not. Altec was selling one in the 1940s, as noted previously.
The original Duplex ("601").

Holy grail driver

Hi guys, I'm just back in from a road trip to retrieve a "pick up only" ebay purchase for a friend. These trips often yield unexpected rewards, but this time I am stunned. For years now I have been fascinated by the history of the coaxial speaker, from the early Bell Labs patents...

www.audioheritage.org

Mr. (Dr.?) Jones has probably heard 'em.

 

[PGansz]

I just don't get the field coil thing that he's come up with. About the only mentioned parameter improvements he mentioned were high BL and lower flux modulation. But the drawbacks are substantial: high cost, a 36 lb. magnet system that has to be externally supported, an external calibrated power supply, power consumption, and heat....right where you don't want it, in the voice coil gap. Modern magnet system design, using FEA and computer simulation, is a very highly advanced science, that has already addressed both flux density and flux stability, so I don't see how these field coils bring anything further to the table. The overall challenge for system sensitivity depends on the bass section anyway, far more than the upper frequencies, and that's a PM design in this system. So the field coil strikes me as a "gimmick" more than anything else, to complement the "vintage vibe" of the system as a whole.. Imagine the cost impact just based on the added weight, steel, copper, bracing, power supplies, etc. This is not going to be a "bargain basement" speaker.

This sounds like a game of trade-offs. Jones is nostalgic, needed business partners, the Cerreta's love tubes...and the rest is history.

 

[PGansz]

Why? It's just another word for "bard", the French equivalent really.

I was referencing a certain company which has already used this as a model in their lineup...

 

[mhardy6647]

I was referencing a certain company which has already used this as a model in their lineup...

as a sidenote, this particular image, I am embarrassed to report, was taken from:

Empire, Part 3

[Previous installments on Empire were in Copper #84 and #86—Ed.] It’s ironic that I’ve ended up writing articles about audio history, as I always found school courses in history incredibly boring. The standard presentation was that of a linear narrative, like a simplistic novel: first A...

www.psaudio.com

 

[kharan]

I was referencing a certain company which has already used this as a model in their lineup...

Fair enough, though I don't think that speaker is anywhere near well known enough to carry any connotation for 99.99% of audiophiles.

 

[Marin]

Top of the class to be sure.

He could definitely sell you driver made entirely of wood with its English charm.
First of all, a top seller....

 

[Audionaut]

Es handelt sich um den weltweit ersten Feldspulen-Koaxialtreiber.
Ich denke, die Leute würden das wollen.

Nein, ich möchte es nicht.
Mir gefällt so etwas viel besser.

 

[Chromatischism]

"Troubadour" does not bring positive connotations...

Why? It's just another word for "bard", the French equivalent really.

Here are the different meanings and context for "Troubadour":

1. Historical Definition: Troubadours were specialized poet-musicians in the High Middle Ages who focused on lyric poetry, often in Old Occitan. They were distinct from traveling minstrels and, while usually male, had female counterparts known as trobairitz.
2. Modern Interpretation: A "modern-day troubadour" is commonly defined as a singer-songwriter who writes, composes, and performs their own material, often wandering or independent, according to TrobEu and San Diego Troubadour.
3. The Troubadour (Venue): Located in West Hollywood, CA, this is a legendary rock venue established in 1957 by Doug Weston. It has been a key venue for artists like Elton John and Guns N' Roses.
4. Brand/Artist: The term is used by the luxury bag brand Troubadour Goods and the country band Turnpike Troubadours.
5. Gaming: In some contexts, like the Guild Wars 2 community, it refers to a specific, often debated, elite specialization (Mesmer class) that focuses on using instruments.

 

[Frank Dernie]

Here are the different meanings and context for "Troubadour":

1. Historical Definition: Troubadours were specialized poet-musicians in the High Middle Ages who focused on lyric poetry, often in Old Occitan. They were distinct from traveling minstrels and, while usually male, had female counterparts known as trobairitz.
2. Modern Interpretation: A "modern-day troubadour" is commonly defined as a singer-songwriter who writes, composes, and performs their own material, often wandering or independent, according to TrobEu and San Diego Troubadour.
3. The Troubadour (Venue): Located in West Hollywood, CA, this is a legendary rock venue established in 1957 by Doug Weston. It has been a key venue for artists like Elton John and Guns N' Roses.
4. Brand/Artist: The term is used by the luxury bag brand Troubadour Goods and the country band Turnpike Troubadours.
5. Gaming: In some contexts, like the Guild Wars 2 community, it refers to a specific, often debated, elite specialization (Mesmer class) that focuses on using instruments.

There was also the Troubadour in London, Old Brompton Road. I used to go in the late 60s, early 70s. It was a tiny venue in the cellar of a coffee shop but I saw a lot of up and coming folk musicians there.

 

[mhardy6647]

There was also the Troubadour in London, Old Brompton Road. I used to go in the late 60s, early 70s. It was a tiny venue in the cellar of a coffee shop but I saw a lot of up and coming folk musicians there.

Not to mention the one in LA -- at which, on 25Aug1970, Elton John, it is said, fairly exploded onto the American consciousness.

The Troubadour - 50 Years On - Elton John

www.eltonjohn.com