Andrew Jones’s new speaker brand - Jones and Cerreta

[MattHooper]

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Can anyone identify the drivers?

As much as I am enjoying the new old school looking speaker revival… I can’t say I’m loving the looks of this speaker .

 

[Mnyb]

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Can anyone identify the drivers?

Atleast the coaxial midrange tweeter is a bespoke design by AJ as far as we know , who the OEM making the driver for them is I don’t know.
I assume the bass unit as also an AJ design or ordered with a specific set of TS parameters from an OEM ( from some manufacturers you can order drivers as a Lego kit with different spiders souround , cones , spiders etc ) .

 

[MarkS]

As much as I am enjoying the new old school looking speaker revival… I can’t say I’m loving the looks of this speaker .

I like it!

I also appreciate how the grilles in AJ's designs do not add diffraction. This used to be more common (eg Paradigm Studio series), but is very rare now.

 

[Newman]

I also appreciate how the grilles in AJ's designs do not add diffraction.

Is there a photo of these grilles?

 

[MattHooper]

I like it!

I also appreciate how the grilles in AJ's designs do not add diffraction. This used to be more common (eg Paradigm Studio series), but is very rare now.

I wonder if these speakers come with grills.
Doesn’t really look like it from the design, but perhaps I would like them better if they did.

 

[Mnyb]

I like it!

I also appreciate how the grilles in AJ's designs do not add diffraction. This used to be more common (eg Paradigm Studio series), but is very rare now.

And in the marketing photo shots they are placed right next to a cabinet but that actually realistic , but I assume diffraction straight of the speakers are much more problematic than even quite close furniture ?

 

[MarkS]

I wonder if these speakers come with grills.

I was assuming they do, similar to the MoFi speakers. But that could be wrong.

 

[Arindal]

He should offer an active version of this speaker, it would be great

If I am not mistaken, he did one for Elac back in the days, also a 3-way coaxial. Unfortunately, active speakers with limited streaming options, are seemingly unattractive to consumers these days. And I am not sure people who are into active, would prefer such a chunky design, so probably Jones & Cerreta will target the passive market.

 

[levimax]

so probably Jones & Cerreta will target the passive market.

Since the field coil requires the speaker to be plugged in any way it seems stupid to not go full active (especially because the variable magnetic field offers some opportunity for "real" innovation if it was actively controlled) but marketing often trumps common sense.

 

[Vuki]

Since the field coil requires the speaker to be plugged in any way it seems stupid to not go full active (especially because the variable magnetic field offers some opportunity for "real" innovation if it was actively controlled) but marketing often trumps common sense.

People who want active speakers are not their target audience. I guess it's high efficiency, high impedance speaker suitable for low powered (tube) amplifiers.

 

[Everett T]

If I am not mistaken, he did one for Elac back in the days, also a 3-way coaxial. Unfortunately, active speakers with limited streaming options, are seemingly unattractive to consumers these days. And I am not sure people who are into active, would prefer such a chunky design, so probably Jones & Cerreta will target the passive market.

The WiiM Ultra is a solution to more streaming service options as well as eARC, coax digital out, subwoofer out, analog audio out, and all in an attractive looking 9x9 case....

 

[Mnyb]

People who want active speakers are not their target audience. I guess it's high efficiency, high impedance speaker suitable for low powered (tube) amplifiers.

No high end dealers wants customers that like active speakers ( like me ).

You can’t upsell them some fancy wires and have them change amps every odd week

The hifi mysticism fud don’t rhyme with actives

 

[MattHooper]

Anyone wanna guess the price?

I saw somebody guessed $39,999.

That immediately struck me as “ yeah that’s probably about right.”

But then again AJ seem to try to bring high-performance to an affordable price with his MoFi speakers, so even though this is niche and it’s going to be more expensive maybe it won’t be quite as outrageous as it could be.

Maybe closer to $29,000 ?

 

[mhardy6647]

I saw somebody guessed $39,999.

I'm in the pool for $39,999.95

 

[PGansz]

I'll bet it's 18k. 25k for the floor stander later this year that adds another woofer.

 

[Penelinfi]

It to me has similar vibes to a cheap shelf micro system speaker with paper cone tweeter and el cheapo little woofer. Obviously will sound good, but the looks have that vibe to me

 

[mordikai]

I'm guessing 18-25K.

 

[Frank Dernie]

You can buy some $5k disposable stuff a year, or you can buy some $50k and keep it for 10 years (and still have some worth to resale) .

Agreed.
I bought Goldmund Epilog 1&2 speakers after a 2 year escapade listening to highly regarded (by the press) speakers of many makes and comparing them. The Goldmunds were a by-product listen, I had actually gone to the dealer to listen to a used pair (quad?) of the original Wilson WAMM the press drooled over, the Goldmund Analogs were spectacularly better to me, causing my comparisons to expand. My objective was to buy speakers for life, I actually hate and detest doing listening tests and measurements, my stereo is for enjoying music and relaxing, so I wanted it over once and forever.

They cost a lot but 30 years later I am enjoying them still every day.

I read reviews and opinions on this forum - given up on the scientific ignorance blatant on the others - and from time to time think about updating my choice then realise there is nothing about these old ones which reduce my musical enjoyment (that could be ignorance is bliss...) so have saved further expenditure.

I did buy Devialet Phantoms when they were first released, I have one of the first pairs delivered. They were expensive but much less so than the Goldmunds. I hardly ever listen to them, they sound good but require too much on line rigmarole to get listening so I tend not to bother. This has put me off considering the D&D 8C which is the most technically attractive of the well reviewed DSP actives to me.

I have bought a Genelec 8341 to hear what all the fuss is about, it is fine and I now use it as a centre channel in a 5.1 annex to my main system if I watch a film with surround sound (probably about once per month). I am afraid any DSP stuff needs to be very inexpensive simply because the liklihood of a 30 year life is slim (IMO).

So I paid a lot for speakers I have used a lot for 30 years and very much less for speakers I hardly ever switch on - the expensive ones are much better value to me.

 

[Frank Dernie]

English accent

An amusing concept for we English, the range of accents and dialects over this country is huge, even more so if you include the whole of the British Isles.

OTOH English with no accent - Oxford English as it is/was known, used to be mandatory for work in any broadcast medium, wherever in the country but regional accents are "OK" now or even fashionable on radio and TV.

I had a strong Lancashire accent in my youth but living 45 years near Oxford I am nearer accentless now, though I still keep some of the northern pronunciation where it seems logical to me, eg I use the short "a", so I say bath, casting etc rather than barth or carsting but that is me being cantankerous.

 

[Mnyb]

I think they try to learn us Swedes Oxford English in school . But American movies changes that a bit ( so words and phrases can differ ) we do subtitle not overdub with our own language other than for children movies ( they are often available in original langue too for the older children who prefer Disney in English ) .

Our own quite thick accent of course make any traces of Oxford English vanish , possible choice of words remains .

We do the English spelling . Colour* and Aluminium .

*the effing work computer is of course American English and tries to meddle