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it's a power cord... what's to show?

Just curious...

Some may be more aggressive than others.

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Faulty cord? Well, what do you expect: isn’t McIntosh an Italian company nowadays? Just sayin’..... ;)
 
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Just curious...

Some may be more aggressive than others.

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one of my audiophile friends has two of those... believe it or not they're deceivingly light weight.... it's all air inside there and two 10 gauge wires.. even the ground isn't connected to anything ... looks pretty f'n cool... but in my case, I was using the stock cable...
 

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Been using StayOnline for years... When I need the right gauage but shorter or longer than supplied, and I don't want to cut down my originals, I use these guys for years -> https://www.stayonline.com/
But they got nothing like above... so well YMMV. ;)
 

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No. McIntosh is owned by employees of the company. Also, a few months back, they shed their ownership of Audio Research.
Well, sort of -- the holding company that owns McIntosh Laboratories was bought out by its own management, moved (back) to New York and renamed McIntosh Group
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McIntosh_Group
https://www.psaudio.com/article/mc-intosh-group-adds-co-ceo/
https://www.barrons.com/articles/wo...ff-poggis-favorite-things-at-home-01593626854
 
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Well, sort of -- the holding company that owns McIntosh Laboratories was bought out by its own management, moved (back) to New York and renamed McIntosh Group
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McIntosh_Group
https://www.psaudio.com/article/mc-intosh-group-adds-co-ceo/
https://www.barrons.com/articles/wo...ff-poggis-favorite-things-at-home-01593626854

important in all of this corporate BS is the company has more or less remained untouched and in the same factory better than 50 years making stuff mostly sourced from parts in the local area.. the quality of which was beyond reproach... (for the most part).
 

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Electronic parts supply into the USA from China is impeded by trade disagreement and Covid-19. Gotta keep the production line moving.
 
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Electronic parts supply into the USA from China is impeded by trade disagreement and Covid-19.

sorry, but what does that have to do with the price or rice in China?? (pardon the pun)...
 

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sorry, but what does that have to do with the price or rice in China?? (pardon the pun)...


If the preferred part is unavailable you use what you can get.
 
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If the preferred part is unavailable you use what you can get.

McIntosh using a Chinese part, even something like this would be scandalous! My initial post clearly implies this, but I am purely speculating, and we will likely never know.
 
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McIntosh using a Chinese part, even something like this would be scandalous! My initial post clearly implies this, but I am purely speculating, and we will likely never know.

Well, they certainly don't use US-only parts. Your amp is an MC462, right? If so, it clearly says "Handcrafted in USA with US and imported parts" right on the back. While that doesn't mean "China" automatically, it still makes you wonder where they corners.

It's also puzzling that they have the screw holes (covered with a sticker or such) to attach a proper IEC socket on the back of your amp (compare to the MC2152 socket https://www.mcintoshlabs.com/products/amplifiers/MC2152AN#gallery-5).
 
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Well, they certainly don't use US-only parts. Your amp is an MC462, right? If so, it clearly says "Handcrafted in USA with US and imported parts" right on the back. While that doesn't mean "China" automatically, it still makes you wonder where they corners.

It's also puzzling that they have the screw holes (covered with a sticker or such) to attach a proper IEC socket on the back of your amp (compare to the MC2152 socket https://www.mcintoshlabs.com/products/amplifiers/MC2152AN#gallery-5).

well, before I dropped $23000 on their stuff, I asked point blank ... are there parts from China, and Tim Deis, their manager of production told me absolutely no... Japan, Germany, France. Belgium, UK, Taiwan and Korea yes however... I have to take them for their word.

He stressed that most of their capacitors, resistors, transistors, diodes, etc are US origin.
 
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the exception is some of their tubes are made in China and they don't hide this or attempt to.
 
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Is there any something wrong with Chinese products?

Not necessarily, but in many cases, stuff made in China is of an inferior quality for a multitude of reasons ... but even were it not, I'm not a fan (and many feel the same way) of their labor practices, their human rights record, their record on dumping into the environment, and their business ethics (pirating, copying proprietary technology, etc)..

Here... from the horses mouth why it's sketchy sometimes to go with Chinese made anything ...

https://smart-hkg.com/why-the-goods-are-low-quality/
 
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I like watching this guys' channel... He's definitely a fan of McIntosh quality.. guess he didn't get the AlliExrpress IEC in that C29 :D

 
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Not necessarily, but in many cases, stuff made in China is of an inferior quality for a multitude of reasons ... but even were it not, I'm not a fan (and many feel the same way) of their labor practices, their human rights record, their record on dumping into the environment, and their business ethics (pirating, copying proprietary technology, etc)..

Here... from the horses mouth why it's sketchy sometimes to go with Chinese made anything ...

https://smart-hkg.com/why-the-goods-are-low-quality/


China built their economy with Western capitalists bending over big-time(minor ownership of investments) for profits using cheap labour and stable, totalitarian, government control.

You judge who had the smarts.
 
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