Amir's subjective speaker rankings

[ahl]

Is there a list for the subjective ranking of amir?

If not, i would like to know what are amir's top 10 loved speakers ranked.

Also are speakers burned in before measurements or subjective listening?

 

[ahl]

Also would like to know that about other reviewers (sorry i dont know all by name)

Amir has told the members were against subjective list. If not complete rankings, anyhow, there will always be memorable ones.

Top3, Top5, Top10?. Give us your favourites you love to listen to.

 

[beren777]

Also are speakers burned in before measurements or subjective listening?

 

[Chrispy]

The point of the reviews is not subjective impressions, altho Amir does mention them from time to time. Speaker burn in, seriously?

 

[Raindog123]

Funny you’ve asked. Check here (and contribute, if you will):

Passive Speaker Recommendations for USA (by @sweetchaos)

I'm constantly asked which speakers to purchase...so, here you go! :D This guide is for PASSIVE speakers. For ACTIVE speakers go here. Click on the "Spoiler" buttons below to expand each section. Readme: Legend: Passive Bookshelf Speakers: Passive Tower/Floorstanding Speakers: RAN OUT...

www.audiosciencereview.com

 

[dfuller]

Also are speakers burned in before measurements or subjective listening?

Burn in is largely a myth - it's not the speakers burning in, it's your ears adapting to the speakers.

 

[phoenixdogfan]

My favorite will always be the Abyss Diana for the hilarity that ensued.

 

[Robin L]

I'd give Amir a 95, Dick---you can dance to it.

 

[noobie1]

As far as I can tell, Amir’s favorite speaker is his own - Revel Salon 2. Of the speakers he’s reviewed off of my head - some of the following received glowing subjective remarks: Revel 228Be, Genelec 8651, KEF LS50 meta, JBL 4309 and several others.

 

[ahl]

As far as I can tell, Amir’s favorite speaker is his own - Revel Salon 2. Of the speakers he’s reviewed of my head, some of the following received glowing subjective remarks: Revel 228Be, Genelec 8651, KEF LS50 meta, JBL 4309 and several others.

I also read it for elac debut reference dbr62

 

[Steve Dallas]

Is there a list for the subjective ranking of amir?

If not, i would like to know what are amir's top 10 loved speakers ranked.

Also are speakers burned in before measurements or subjective listening?

1. No. The point of the site is objectivity, and any subjective thoughts are merely nice to have.

2. Those who have been around a while and paid attention know Amir values deep bass extension, high dynamic range, low distortion, flat frequency response, and wide, even directivity. You can read the measurements with those traits in mind and figure out what he probably likes. Otherwise, there is just the yes / no found on this page: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?pages/SpeakerTestData/

3. Being exercised on the Klippel is plenty of "burn-in," which isn't really a thing beyond the first few minutes to 1 hour. That is all that is needed to "burn in" the drivers. The rest is you acclimating to the sound of the speakers and their interaction with your room.

 

[sweetchaos]

1. If you want to see which speakers Amir recommended, look at:

Speaker Review and Measurement Index

Master database of speaker review and measurements

www.audiosciencereview.com

Then under "Recommended" dropdown, select "Yes".
Keep in mind that this was last updated on 2021-10-08, as this table is maintained by a few members (community effort).

2. If you want to see which speakers Amir gave the Soccer (or Golfing) Panther Awards to, look at:

List of Amir's Recommended Speakers, for Canadians

This thread is intended for Canadian shoppers, looking to purchase speakers. Inspiration for this thread: - Since I tend to visit the same websites everyday to check for a deal, I figure I'd share this info to save others time Limitations of this thread: - I'm only posting links for speakers...

www.audiosciencereview.com

But keep in mind, that I created this thread for Canadian shoppers in mind.
You can quickly see which speakers are on this list.

3. If you want to see which speakers are ranked to have the best preference score/rating, look at:

Passive Speaker Recommendations for USA (by @sweetchaos)

I'm constantly asked which speakers to purchase...so, here you go! :D This guide is for PASSIVE speakers. For ACTIVE speakers go here. Click on the "Spoiler" buttons below to expand each section. Readme: Legend: Passive Bookshelf Speakers: Passive Tower/Floorstanding Speakers: RAN OUT...

www.audiosciencereview.com

Active Speaker Recommendations for USA (by @sweetchaos)

I'm constantly asked which speakers to purchase...so, here you go! :D This guide is for ACTIVE speakers. For PASSIVE speakers go here. Click on the "Spoiler" buttons below to expand each section. Readme: Legend: Active Speakers (aka Studio Monitors): Bookshelf speakers (when turned 90deg)...

www.audiosciencereview.com

The top 3 picks are simply the speakers with the highest preference rating, nothing more.
The worthy picks below are speakers that either Amir and Erin reviewed, and favorably recommended.
This list was curated by me based on these criteria.

4. If you want to see which speakers people have heard and then put their own ranking in terms of their preference, look at:

Rank studio monitors/active speakers you have heard

I saw a similar concept on a headphone forum I follow, I thought it would be great/fun to get a list running of ranked Studio monitors/powered speakers with the great community here. I am a new member but have been following the threads on here for a while List/rank the studio monitors/powered...

www.audiosciencereview.com

Hope that helped.

 

[Chrispy]

Then again if like Amir's preference/comments on aesthetics, may not be very meaningful, depending (his aren't mine)

 

[billyjoebob]

Burn in is largely a myth - it's not the speakers burning in, it's your ears adapting to the speakers.

If this is true, why do manufacturers state that a small burn in time is recommended?
With nothing to gain from it, who do I believe, the manufacturer or people on this forum?

 

[Robin L]

If this is true, why do manufacturers state that a small burn in time is recommended?
With nothing to gain from it, who do I believe, the manufacturer or people on this forum?

Never, ever trust a manufacturer. You don't know their motives or M.O.

 

[ahl]

2. If you want to see which speakers Amir gave the Soccer (or Golfing) Panther Awards to, look at:

List of Amir's Recommended Speakers, for Canadians

This thread is intended for Canadian shoppers, looking to purchase speakers. Inspiration for this thread: - Since I tend to visit the same websites everyday to check for a deal, I figure I'd share this info to save others time Limitations of this thread: - I'm only posting links for speakers...

www.audiosciencereview.com

But keep in mind, that I created this thread for Canadian shoppers in mind.
You can quickly see which speakers are on this list.

This certainly helps somewhat, these got the highest recommendations?

 

[ahl]

If this is true, why do manufacturers state that a small burn in time is recommended?
With nothing to gain from it, who do I believe, the manufacturer or people on this forum?

Better make your own opinion with experience, you will always get polarized replies on any forum.

 

[Everett T]

If this is true, why do manufacturers state that a small burn in time is recommended?
With nothing to gain from it, who do I believe, the manufacturer or people on this forum?

Same reason they put biwire terminals on most speakers, marketing. With break in belief, you believe that they start to sound better after owing them for a bit. This has been measured many times.

 

[Paolo]

If this is true, why do manufacturers state that a small burn in time is recommended?
With nothing to gain from it, who do I believe, the manufacturer or people on this forum?

Manufacturers won’t alienate their prospect buyers, even the most serious ones will not come out and say on your face “You’re talking BS.”
So, you will see a range of answer to questions about mythological themes, from the unscrupulous who incorporate nonsense in their marketing material to the ones that only gets evasive when asked. Just try to imagine what you will do in their place, will you lose a sale only to argument over a stupid point with your customer or what?

I remember an interview with the founder of Ollo Audio on YouTube, they do design with measurement in mind*, and when asked about the burn-in period I’ve got a good laugh, he replied politely, but with literal rolling eyes, funny and comprehensible.



*someone argue over how good their research is, but this is not the point, Ollo’s ethos is in the right place.

 

[dasdoing]

saying that drivers wont change over time is ingoring physics.
now it's very depend on the material, quality and other factors. if a driver changes significantly after a "break-in" procedure, it probably never will be broken-in, since it will always change....and then aventualy break. It would basicly have a Half-Life. I can imagine that drivers in the 70ies and 80ies behaved like this, and that the initial changes were pretty noticable.