AMD Ryzen 7000 Series Discussion (With X670E Charts)

[ZolaIII]

This is the 1st case i've owned with the extra space behind the motherboard tray to route all the cables. I like it! It facilitates a very clean build...

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The cable routing is temporary as I think I'm going replace all the fans with Noctua ones. I also need to install the DVD-RW from my old PC and add power for a graphics card when I get one. I'm still leaning towards an RX 6700 XT which I would under-volt to keep the power draw and noise down. Anyway, i'm very happy with the build so far

Consider Silent Wings 3 as one you won't be able to replace in PSU is that.

 

[Berwhale]

Consider Silent Wings 3 as one you won't be able to replace in PSU is that.

I'm a Noctua Fanboy The Silent Wings 3 are about 50% more expensive than the NF-P12/NF-S12B PWM Redux fans that I will buy. I'll also be adding 2 or 3 additional fans with the GPU, so I think your point about matching the fans is debatable, but I do appreciate the input.

 

[ZolaIII]

I'm a Noctua Fanboy The Silent Wings 3 are about 50% more expensive than the NF-P12/NF-S12B PWM Redux fans that I will buy. I'll also be adding 2 or 3 additional fans with the GPU, so I think your point about matching the fans is debatable, but I do appreciate the input.

Well if Noctua one's are that much cheaper than go for it.

 

[ThatM1key]

I would go with Noctua fans but a Noctua NF-A12x25 shouldn't cost the same as a Noctua NF-A20. If I had pick a company to be a "fanboy" over, it would be Arctic

 

[Berwhale]

I would go with Noctua fans but a Noctua NF-A12x25 shouldn't cost the same as a Noctua NF-A20. If I had pick a company to be a "fanboy" over, it would be Arctic

I don't believe Noctua do a Redux version of the NF-A12x25. The beige and brown is £29 vs £13 for NF-P12 and NF-S12B redux versions and I need two for my heatsink. Noctua use the NP-P12 on their own NH-U12S cooler, so it should be fine on my Thermalright Peerless Assassin. I'm running the non-X 7900 with a 65W TDP, so it's not like i'm cooling the sun here (even after some light OC with PBO).

Regarding Noctua - I built a PC in 2013 based on an Intel i5-4570, the case had 5 brown and beige Noctua fans in it. I sold this PC to a colleague for his son after building my Ryzen 1700X PC in 2018. The i5-4570 build is still in daily use, I was told last week that the power button is failing, but the fans are all still working

Regarding Arctic - I was set on getting the Liquid Freezer II 240 before I decided to give air cooling another go.

 

[ZolaIII]

Regarding Noctua I liked NF-F IPPC-2000 series for the motor, RPM sped up, air flow and durability but their are neither cheap nor very quiet (arguably better than A series as able to push little more air on low RPM). I don't have high opinion on Redux series. More for eight Arctic P CO or P A-RGB series in affordable category depending what you priotise more performance and durability or looks.

 

[ThatM1key]

If you cough a bit more money and don't mind ring-rgb fans, I would recommend be quiet's light wing fans.

I seen plenty of fans across various many brands. Corsair fans always seemed a bit high on price but you should see the cooler master fan prices.

 

[Bleib]

For value also look into Arctic P12/P14, especially 5-pack

 

[ThatM1key]

For value also look into Arctic P12/P14, especially 5-pack

I wish they made a 5-pack version of their ARGB fans.

 

[ZolaIII]

I wish they made a 5-pack version of their ARGB fans.

They made 3-pack version's instead which is not bad either.

P14 PWM PST A-RGB | 140 mm A-RGB PWM Fan with Cable Splitter | 3 Pieces | ARCTIC

ACFAN00257A | Silent at low load, highest performance on demand | ARCTIC's semi-passive A-RGB fan with 0-decibel mode | Available now in the ARCTIC webshop | Fast processing | ARCTIC Store

www.arctic.de

 

[Berwhale]

I've ordered 3x NF-S12B redux 1200 PWM fans for the case and 2x NF-P12 redux 1700 PWM fans for the CPU. I also order some Artic MX-4 paste (including spatula) because the stuff that came with the Peerless Assassin was very stiff and not nice to work with. Total cost was £87 including some colour co-ordinated rubber bumpers for the fans

I also ordered a Sapphire Radeon RX 6700 XT PULSE 12GB graphics card for £360 (it was a toss up between this and a Powercolor at the same price).

 

[Berwhale]

For value also look into Arctic P12/P14, especially 5-pack

They do look like good value. The F12 5-pack caught my eye on Amazon UK yesterday and the P12's look even better (although not in stock on Amazon UK).

 

[ThatM1key]

I remember when the "BioniX" fans were suppose to be top of the line for Arctic but then the "P" fans came. At time, I wanted to build a "Be Quiet FX Case" build, so I bought Arctic eSports Duo and swapped the fans for Be-Quiet Light Wings. Good cooler, but the fans would ramp because of the low surface area (because of the 5800X3D). My eye caught another case like a married man looking at casino chicks. I swapped my parts to a Pop Air XL and got myself an alright Astek 360mm rad (6 fans). I put the tubes at the tube but I honestly don't care if that rad dies.

When it comes to "Ring" and "Full Blade" RGB fans, I like them both equally.

They made 3-pack version's instead which is not bad either.

P14 PWM PST A-RGB | 140 mm A-RGB PWM Fan with Cable Splitter | 3 Pieces | ARCTIC

ACFAN00257A | Silent at low load, highest performance on demand | ARCTIC's semi-passive A-RGB fan with 0-decibel mode | Available now in the ARCTIC webshop | Fast processing | ARCTIC Store

www.arctic.de

I bought 3 of them in the past.

 

[ZolaIII]

@ThatM1key actually P (pressure optimised) series came before BioniX, they over exaggerated a bit with BioniX which while did have more pressure were heavy and considerably louder so not exactly their best creation. Their CO (constant operation, old fashion double ball bearing) P series is still overall best and cost as cheap Noctua Redux series.
Technically Noctua NF-F IPPC-2000 12V (also server grade long operation) is still the most advanced PC fan for it's performance but not among more quiet one's at high RPM, thanks to it's push - pool (6 phase) engine. But those are relatively expensive. As all RGB one's have performance penalty thanks to larger blade centre point because of LED aria and weight added the Arctic P ARGB one's are most deacent and good performing (small performance hit compared to regular P series and more than deacent colour and dimming) one's so far and arguably not too expensive.

 

[ThatM1key]

@ThatM1key actually P (pressure optimised) series came before BioniX, they over exaggerated a bit with BioniX which while did have more pressure were heavy and considerably louder so not exactly their best creation. Their CO (constant operation, old fashion double ball bearing) P series is still overall best and cost as cheap Noctua Redux series.
Technically Noctua NF-F IPPC-2000 12V (also server grade long operation) is still the most advanced PC fan for it's performance but not among more quiet one's at high RPM, thanks to it's push - pool (6 phase) engine. But those are relatively expensive. As all RGB one's have performance penalty thanks to larger blade centre point because of LED aria and weight added the Arctic P ARGB one's are most deacent and good performing (small performance hit compared to regular P series and more than deacent colour and dimming) one's so far and arguably not too expensive.

Huh, I guess I was wrong. I thought it was older because the BioniX fans would perform worse and the ARGB version requires that stupid box. Speaking of ARGB, the BioniX ARGB costs too damn much ($77 for a 3-pack). For $8 USD more, I can get Be Quiet's Light Wings 3-pack (That comes with a garbage but useful ARGB hub).

 

[Joramun]

The 4070 is a shit card. $600 for 12 gigs of VRAM, fuck that.

For double the money, you get a 4080 with only 16 gigs of vram. $200 less of that 4080, you get a AMD 7900 XTX that offers a juicy 24 gigs of vram. Sure the 7900 XTX has worse Ray tracing performance but that card will last you a lot longer.

If you dont care about 4k gaming, get an old GTX 1070 8GB for $150, and watch the market for any actual good new gpus in the future.

Agreed. No one should be recommending the 4070 at its current price. It's an overpriced card and should really be labelled as a 4060 with its specs. That makes more worse if you think about it.

Just have a quick look at PC/tech focused forums and YouTube and the majority consensus is that it's an overpriced card.

 

[ThatM1key]

It's been about year since the thread was created. AM5 (7000 series) is success for gaming (Except for the 7950X3D) but terrible for chipset bandwidths and value-for-money.

The main issue for X670E motherboards:

1. Most X670E boards don't use all the lanes of an 7000 series CPU.
2. X670E is just 2 X570 chipsets.
3. Lack of USB innovation.

The "Best amount of M.2 slots and CPU lane usage" board is (Pro Choice but no USB4 onboard): MSI MEG X670E ACE.
The "Barely takes advantage of CPU lanes & Chipset lanes while having USB4" is (Gets the job done overall): Asus X670E Crosshair.
The "Your gonna give up 4 CPU lanes for USB4 and your gonna like it" board is (Forced Choice): Asrock X670E Taichi.
The "Only 1 Gen-4 drive can run through the Chipset" board is (Oops we forgot the chipset existed): Gigabyte X670E Extreme.
The "We added a screen but didn't add USB4 ports" (Could've bought 2 MSI MEG X670E board's instead): MSI Meg X670E Godlike.

 

[Bleib]

Got a bug with my Gigabyte 670e motherboard which limits downloads at 100mbit/s.. very odd

 

[ThatM1key]

Got a bug with my Gigabyte 670e motherboard which limits downloads at 100mbit/s.. very odd

Usually its Windows itself. I had a bug where when I restarted and tried to open my flash drive, the explorer would just hang. It would hang so badly that even task manager couldn't kill it and the temp solution was just to replug the flash drive, magically explorer started working. I eventually just did a clean install of Windows and the problem went away entirely.

 

[Bleib]

Usually its Windows itself. I had a bug where when I restarted and tried to open my flash drive, the explorer would just hang. It would hang so badly that even task manager couldn't kill it and the temp solution was just to replug the flash drive, magically explorer started working. I eventually just did a clean install of Windows and the problem went away entirely.

Not a major problem as I have a USB3 device that is quite a bit faster than 100mbit