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All I need is an iPad, Amazon Basic RCA Cables and an my old AMP

MarcosCh

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Amir just reviewed an active crossover. You can find them cheaper, starting at around $100 USD. Or, you could spend a couple-hundred more dollars and get an Audio Video Receiver which will have a (line-level) subwoofer output and "bass management".

And with an AVR you'll get a bunch more features and you could even use those extra speakers for surround sound. (I like to use a Dolby "soundfield" setting for some delayed rear channel reverb when I'm listening to regular stereo recordings.)
Yes, sure, but the premise of tablet headphone out and some basic rca cables starts to get more complicated, that's what I mean.

For instance: the xover amir reviewed is balanced, you need to start tinkering with the right cables (not anymore the Amazon basics rca of the title). Then there are single ended ones, sure, you have the minidsp 2x4 very cheap, but people report audible hiss, then you find yourself in the search for something still cheap and hopefully better.... and as you well said, you might end up with an additional box or a full fledged AVR.
I am not saying it is necessarily expensive or too complicated, but once you need more than two channels, it is not always as easy as a headphone out cable to a random Amp and call it a day. I wish it was though :D
 

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Well, even if your source, DACs, and amp are squared away, it doesn't mean your speakers and rooms are. A pair of Klipsch RP600s and a room with a lot of windows could make for a bright/fatiguing experience. That's why its helpful to use REW to measure things.

Another note on fatigue is that it could just be listening too loud. If you have a lot of, or even a little, ambient noise, it can make you add a lot of volume.
 

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fuzzy_logic

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Anyone care to share if I got this right or if I am missing something?
The only thing i would say is that older tablets/phones can become pretty unusable once they fall out of support. I have an iPad 4, which barely supports any new versions of apps. I had to jailbreak it to get a working version of Spotify, but i can't get Tidal installed, and i can't get any of the new Plexamp releases. Ok the device is nearly 10 years old, but it was officially unsupported by Apple 5 years after it was released. I'd imagine the remaining IOS devices that still have headphone jacks will be out of support pretty soon, if they aren't already.
 

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The only thing i would say is that older tablets/phones can become pretty unusable once they fall out of support. I have an iPad 4, which barely supports any new versions of apps. I had to jailbreak it to get a working version of Spotify, but i can't get Tidal installed, and i can't get any of the new Plexamp releases. Ok the device is nearly 10 years old, but it was officially unsupported by Apple 5 years after it was released. I'd imagine the remaining IOS devices that still have headphone jacks will be out of support pretty soon, if they aren't already.
I'm using an iPad Air 2 for this and I have never run across anything that it won't support. I use Apple music but I tried Qobuz and TIDAL with no issues.
 

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I use a £120 asus ma210 I got from John Lewis in place of ipad type 'sealed' devices, so update worries/support are not really any concern - I use equaliser APO via my old Aune USB dac. No touch screen though, a bit clunky, but it's internally upgradable (!!) and fanless. but your setup seems to be in the right direction, imho, the hobby is about getting the best results for the least amount of money possible, and I've barely scratched the surface of harnessing tech to get the best, I could easily make things a lot worse I'm sure given the amount of things i can tweak. Perhaps next year I might even do that Room EQ stuff with a microphone. Perhaps build some active DSP crossover speakers with coaxial drivers.
 

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I'm using an iPad Air 2 for this and I have never run across anything that it won't support. I use Apple music but I tried Qobuz and TIDAL with no issues.
Yes, because your iPad supports the latest version of iOS. However, support is ending for this model, and once it stops getting new versions of iOS, app support will also start to fall away. It might be fine for those that only use Apple Music - i don't use it, but still have a login, and it does work on ios 10.3.3 - but other apps have much stricter requirements. E.g Tidal, Qobuz and Netflix require iOS 14 or later - anything older than your iPad won't be able to use those apps.
 
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Yes, because your iPad supports the latest version of iOS. However, support is ending for this model, and once it stops getting new versions of iOS, app support will also start to fall away. It might be fine for those that only use Apple Music - i don't use it, but still have a login, and it does work on ios 10.3.3 - but other apps have much stricter requirements. E.g Tidal, Qobuz and Netflix require iOS 14 or later - anything older than your iPad won't be able to use those apps.
Everyone's needs are different. This is what makes this so challenging (and fun).

And while it is true, support for your existing digital streaming solution may end in the future and force you to upgrade some items, for some of us, today we may have a 'good enough' solution using what we already own.

In regards to Apple, if one has a newer Apple product without the 3.5mm jack, one can buy an $8 Apple dongle that will provide the same high quality solution because the dongle has the DAC and pre-amp built in (amazing)! And it was tested by Amir and shown to provide excellent results.

Another benefit that Fuzzy Logic points out is those with newer devices requiring the dongle will have additional years of Apple support for their streaming solution versus those of us using the built in 3.5mm jack.
 
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