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All About UFO's

Of course I've not wasted my time watching it. If there was anything in it even remotely likely to convince me - it would also have convinced all the other non conspiracy theorists - and would be mainstream news globally. The fact it isn't tells me all I need to know.
It's your opinion. I don't think the video is a waste of time. You could find people like here who were in a government position, but they are often not allowed to disclose what they know:
 

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It crashed and was destroyed on the lunar surface eliminating all traces of evidence collected during the approach.

Lots of lunar missions have crashed at the last minute, so what? Airplanes don't stop working until they hit the ground either.

OK, my turn to be a delusional crackpot!

I hope you realize that my post was meant to show how someone can turn the mundane into a conspiracy.
 
In addition to NASA, you’ll have to add Russia/USSR, Japan, China, India, Europe/ESA, South Korea, and Israel to the lunar looney tunes cover-up list.
You may be on to something.
So many missing nations: Sweden? Chad? Turkmenistan? Andorra? Liechtenstein?
What do they know and why aren't they talking?
 
In addition to NASA, you’ll have to add Russia/USSR, Japan, China, India, Europe/ESA, South Korea, and Israel to the lunar looney tunes cover-up list.

Israel doesn't appear to be covering it up, though they don't say a lot about it. Nonetheless, Haim Eshed, a retired brigadier general in Israel Military Intelligence, director of space programs for Israel Ministry of Defense for nearly 30 years, former chair of the Space Committee of the National Council for Research and Development for the Ministry of Science, Technology and Space, and a member of the steering committee of the Israel Space Agency, publicly stated NHI is real and has been visiting Earth.

I don't know whether he is telling the truth, but when someone with those credentials makes such a statement I do find it compelling.
 
Seems that they're more forthcoming about aliens than satellites, then, I suppose.
Well, you don't hear from the French intelligence agency either. Both countries are very good at such secrecy. There are many well-kept secrets in the world obviously, so one of them could be aliens in my opinion.
 
Well, you don't hear from the French intelligence agency either. Both countries are very good at such secrecy. There are many well-kept secrets in the world obviously, so one of them could be aliens in my opinion.
... or completely, utterly the opposite, given the porosity of so many governments and/or military agencies vis-a-vis "aliens". :)
When there are real secrets to keep, they are kept at any cost necessary. Making up silly cover stories and arranging leaks from credentialed insiders is edit would be easy and inexpensive.

N.B. I edited the above since I remembered that use of the subjunctive is de rigueur in discussing conspiracies. Wouldn't some also add that this is also true of asking more questions than answering them?
;)
 
Let me tell you all a little story (yes, an anecdote! ;)). There is a red-roofed house on a ridge south of us. If google maps is to be believed, it's about 1.24 miles (1.99 km) from our house "as the crow flies". Due to its location and its bright red roof, it's clearly visible from the back of our house, even though it is liberally surrounded by a mix of deciduous and evergreen trees.

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The "red roofed house" has an outdoor light. It is fairly dark here at night, so the light is quite conspicuous.
On dark, windy nights, a remarkable effect manifests itself. The light not only seems to randomly appear and disappear, it also seems to move -- quite rapidly. It appears not just to move left and right & up and down, but it can also appear to move closer and farther away. All of these phenomena can occur very quickly, with the net effect of an appearing, and disappearing bright light that moves very very quickly left, right, up, down, nearer and farther.

We've lived here for over 12 years. I've observed this numerous times -- most recently last night. I watched it for a couple of minutes last night from the window in our bedroom closet :p while I was getting ready for bed. It is eerie. It is not inexplicable though. It's the light, tree branches, the wind, and human perception.

Just like those amazing effects on soundstage when one switches from a sigma-delta DAC to an R2R DAC, or from Brand EXPENSIVE to Brand REALLY EXPENSIVE interconnects.

Human perception.
Man is the measure of all things.
Even the stuff the instruments they make tell them.

N.B. I spent a career trying to understand what the measurements we took were telling us. :)
 
... I don't know whether he is telling the truth, but when someone with those credentials makes such a statement I do find it compelling.

There's that credentialism again. And the paradox: 'high-level' people are ... compelling ... and incompetent?
 
Let me tell you all a little story (yes, an anecdote! ;)). There is a red-roofed house on a ridge south of us. If google maps is to be believed, it's about 1.24 miles (1.99 km) from our house "as the crow flies". Due to its location and its bright red roof, it's clearly visible from the back of our house, even though it is liberally surrounded by a mix of deciduous and evergreen trees.

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The "red roofed house" has an outdoor light. It is fairly dark here at night, so the light is quite conspicuous.
On dark, windy nights, a remarkable effect manifests itself. The light not only seems to randomly appear and disappear, it also seems to move -- quite rapidly. It appears not just to move left and right & up and down, but it can also appear to move closer and farther away. All of these phenomena can occur very quickly, with the net effect of an appearing, and disappearing bright light that moves very very quickly left, right, up, down, nearer and farther.

We've lived here for over 12 years. I've observed this numerous times -- most recently last night. I watched it for a couple of minutes last night from the window in our bedroom closet :p while I was getting ready for bed. It is eerie. It is not inexplicable though. It's the light, tree branches, the wind, and human perception.

Just like those amazing effects on soundstage when one switches from a sigma-delta DAC to an R2R DAC, or from Brand EXPENSIVE to Brand REALLY EXPENSIVE interconnects.

Human perception.
Man is the measure of all things.
Even the stuff the instruments they make tell them.

N.B. I spent a career trying to understand what the measurements we took were telling us. :)

Time to take your YouTube crew and knock on that door ... disclosure awaits us !!
 
Edgar Mitchell and more, but they can just be ignored by those who want to believe there is no cover-up. Confirmation bias is universal.

Indeed it is - and it is most evident in those who want to listen to and believe the minority that share their conspiracy mindset - while ignoring the much greater majority who say there is not even anything to cover up.

Everything is possible - sure. Even those demons we hear about upthread.

But here is the important thing that many seem to misunderstand. The vast majority of those possibilities have vanishingly small probabilities. And for those - much more is needed than a few believers standing up and claiming they are special and have access to sources of information no-one else has or acknowledges.

And one of those small probabilities is that the conspiracy could successfully cover all countries, all governments, all security services in the world, over a period of time rapidly heading towards 80 years - and yet somehow not one mistake being made. Not one piece of hard physical incontrovertible evidence being exposed.
 
we do see some interesting things here now and again...





I was, and remain, very intrigued by that bottom photo. ;)
EDIT: I will note that the day I took that bottom photo, I also was packin' a pair of expensive ;) European binoculars. I looked hard (and the air was very clear) but could not see the sources of those con trails in front of them -- from which I infer that they were very small or very high up relative to the usual at altitude aircraft flyin' by.

 
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Israel doesn't appear to be covering it up, though they don't say a lot about it. Nonetheless, Haim Eshed, a retired brigadier general in Israel Military Intelligence, director of space programs for Israel Ministry of Defense for nearly 30 years, former chair of the Space Committee of the National Council for Research and Development for the Ministry of Science, Technology and Space, and a member of the steering committee of the Israel Space Agency, publicly stated NHI is real and has been visiting Earth.

I don't know whether he is telling the truth, but when someone with those credentials makes such a statement I do find it compelling.
And he's not the first nor alone. Let's not forget former Canadian Minister of Defence Paul Hellyer, publicly claimed the existence of extraterrestrial life and unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs) starting in the early 2000s. But what does he know right? Posters here, clearly better informed...

Again, we are left with possibilities; they are lying, crazy, or other? Why does someone with their creds and reputation claim such a thing knowing what it will do to their reputation?
 
And he's not the first nor alone. Let's not forget former Canadian Minister of Defence Paul Hellyer, publicly claimed the existence of extraterrestrial life and unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs) starting in the early 2000s. But what does he know right? Posters here, clearly better informed...

Again, we are left with possibilities; they are lying, crazy, or other? Why does someone with their creds and reputation claim such a thing knowing what it will do to their reputation?

When people retire, they can amuse themselves however they fancy.

As it happens, I grew up with some 'senior' politicians. They're a lot like us.
 
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