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All About UFO's

And they often believe their projections.
As I often say, when you hear something due to placebo effect, you really hear it, and it tends to be very convincing. There's no tell that you're not "really" hearing it, because you're damn well hearing something. I assume it's similar when you think you saw an alien or whatever you end up calling it.
 
Speaking of angels and demons, I found out years ago that if you want to make someone really angry, tell them that the angel encounter experience they are relating to you may have actually been a demon pretending to be an angel. I innocently suggested that and it didn't go over well at all.
 
Sorry, you have neither the knowledge nor authority to do so.
Just curious, who does have the knowledge and authority to evaluate whether or not we are experiencing the presence of actual demons?
 
I think Stellantis is involved somehow.
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Just curious, who does have the knowledge and authority to evaluate whether or not we are experiencing the presence of actual demons?
Low effort Q that leads no where. You'd have ask those who believe in such things/study such things. I, not being religious type, nor have a I really studied the topic, put probability of demonic related as explanation for UAP/UFO phenomena as low. I find Dr. Vallée's take on the topic compelling which may explain all of it:

 
LOL. Jacques Vallee, still touring Magonia? Everything old is new again.

This part of his thesis is not unsound: these anecdotes are like the religious visions of old, including Fatima.

Except he thinks they are see something 'real': interdimensional visitors, in fact.

It's funny how little faith these explainers have in the sheer human ability, long in evidence in many spheres of life throughout history any all cultures, to interpret 'experiences' wrongly. To jump to bad conclusions, in other words. To tend to 'affirm one's priors' , as the rationalist nerd pack might say.
 
Low effort Q that leads no where. You'd have ask those who believe in such things/study such things. I, not being religious type, nor have a I really studied the topic, put probability of demonic related as explanation for UAP/UFO phenomena as low. I find Dr. Vallée's take on the topic compelling which may explain all of it:

Sorry, but that is a low effort A after you personally informed a poster that he wasn’t qualified, but still have not explained why he is not qualified. And you have not informed us why you are in a position to make that statement.
 
LOL. Jacques Vallee, still touring Magonia? Everything old is new again.

This part of his thesis is not unsound: these anecdotes are like the religious visions of old, including Fatima.

Except he thinks they are see something 'real': interdimensional visitors, in fact.

It's funny how little faith these explainers have in the sheer human ability, long in evidence in many spheres of life throughout history any all cultures, to interpret 'experiences' wrongly. To jump to bad conclusions, in other words. To tend to 'affirm one's priors' , as the rationalist nerd pack might say.

I wasn't overly familiar with Vallee's output, apart from a brief dip (that's the opposite of a deep dive, if you can forgive the cliche) a way back in this thread (the same vid Will has posted just now I think). Anyway the Magonia mythology is delightful, thank you.

To be fair to Vallee (by which I mean let's not credit him undeservedly) it was Jung's thesis that these chronologically shape-shifting visions are projections that take their superficial characteristics from the mental images and beliefs of their times. What Vallee has done of course is to perform a kind of idiot's inversion of that idea. His proposition that Aliens are shape-shifting to match our visions to our cultural milieu over the centuries and thus deceive adds paranoid delusion to the mix. Born of preposterous narcissism I expect: I imagine/see/believe so reality must follow.

It's no surprise to me that Will finds this 'compelling'. And that this entertaining thread exists as a kind of mirror of the power of magical thinking.
 
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I'm gonna leave this here without further comment. It comes from a credible source.

1. The Marshmallow Crucible Experiment

In 1965, NASA engineers accidentally discovered that marshmallows exposed to microgravity and intense microwave radiation form a strange plasma foam.

They called the containment device the “marshmallow crucible.”

Inside the crucible, the sugar lattice would resonate with electromagnetic fields and produce a phasor matrix—a geometric interference pattern that behaved suspiciously like the mathematical models used to describe the event horizon of a Black Hole.

In short:
toasted sugar foam briefly simulated spacetime curvature.

Naturally, NASA panicked.


2. The Phasor Matrix Problem

The marshmallow matrix turned out to be stable only if someone inside the resonance chamber maintained a coherent narrative field (basically, a mind focused on a simple story).

Complicated thoughts destabilized the spacetime geometry.

After testing philosophers, physicists, and test pilots, they discovered the most stable cognitive pattern came from someone mentally reciting the plot of The Wizard of Oz.

Specifically the perspective of Dorothy Gale.

When a subject imagined walking the Yellow Brick Road, the phasor harmonics aligned perfectly.


3. Why Apollo Directors Had to “Play Dorothy”

During a late-night test the marshmallow crucible created a miniature gravitational anomaly that threatened to collapse the lab into a sugary singularity.

The only way to stabilize it was for several mission directors to enter the chamber and synchronize their thoughts as Dorothy:

“Lions and tigers and bears… oh my.”
The narrative simplicity kept the phasor matrix coherent long enough for engineers to power down the experiment.

To this day, NASA archives refer to the event as:

“The Kansas Protocol.”


4. The Teddy Bear Alcohol Calibration

Now, the resonance field was extremely sensitive to ethanol vapor.

Unfortunately, astronauts stored celebratory brandy in the lab.

To measure contamination levels quickly, technicians used plush toys soaked in known alcohol concentrations—nicknamed “calibration bears.”

Thus the crucial variable in the experiment became:

the precise alcohol content of the teddy bear.

Too much ethanol → spacetime turbulence.
Too little → unstable marshmallow collapse.


5. The Classified Conclusion

The final internal report stated:

“Under specific electromagnetic conditions, confectionery substrates may produce spacetime phasor anomalies. Stabilization requires narrative cognition equivalent to the Dorothy archetype and ethanol calibration via plush reference objects.”
The program was quietly canceled.

But some conspiracy theorists believe the technology was later repurposed for something far more ambitious:

the navigation systems used in Apollo lunar trajectories.
 
As a carbohydrate biochemist, I am not the least bit surprised by any of the above.
:)
 
New hypothesis as to why we haven't found alien signals by now:


Interesting paper. Reminds me of a joke used to emphasize the importance of study design.

A man is looking for his car keys at night under a lamp post.
“I lost them across the street”, he tells a passersby, “but the light is better over here.”
 
New hypothesis as to why we haven't found alien signals by now:


Ah yes... but ET (the kind that acc. to some visits earth) is close by and one might assume has to report back to wherever they came from.
So IF they send and receive data/instructions that would have to be to something close enough to do so.
Sadly none of the 'mysterious crafts' that have been observed do not seem to emit anything we are 'looking' for... at least I don't recall reading anything about chatter between alleged alien crafts.
They MUST be using something we humans do not use nor are watching for.

They can't use radio waves or light as it would take too long to get there.
So... for communication they are not likely to use engineering we (the primitives on this planet) would be using because of practical constraints.

And if the crafts are 'drones' they would have to communicate the intel they are gathering and either send it home or have to 'pop in and out' our realm to report what is living on our tiny planet.
 
A lengthy discussion with astrophysicist Dr. Eric Davis, 30 years in the field of UAP/UFOs via US government programs (via AAWSAP etc) and Dr. Eric Weinstein, who is not a believer or supporter of what Dr Davis and co claim about the topic and asks the skeptics Qs as someone with the high level background to ask them. Below the vid on YT is extensive time stamps for those who don't want to sit through approx 4 hours of that show:


 
A lengthy discussion with astrophysicist Dr. Eric Davis, 30 years in the field of UAP/UFOs via US government programs (via AAWSAP etc) and Dr. Eric Weinstein, who is not a believer or supporter of what Dr Davis and co claim about the topic and asks the skeptics Qs as someone with the high level background to ask them. Below the vid on YT is extensive time stamps for those who don't want to sit through approx 4 hours of that show:


I'm so excited by this ... four hours ... that's half a working day. What better use of time?

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I was wondering if the desire to watch four hours (or any amount of minutes really) of this stems from eating roadkill and ingesting a brain parasite. Because precedent. But I'm guessing either of these two products may also have that effect. I also recall that our interlocutor Brink is a self-described 'supplement consultant' so another guess is that these postings function as cross-promotion (direct or incidental) for the bro-fluencer miasma from whence they emanate.

Damn, forgot to watch the video.

Edit: note that Will gives us a follow-up clue re his earlier rhetorical challenge on 'knowledge and authority'. Apparently one of the crazies (Weinstein) 'asks the skeptics Qs as someone with the high level background to ask them'. There it is: high level background. It's all about the levels. So, level up !!

 
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This man burned out $50 million in military computers with his mind. The Army's response? Recruit him to lead one of the most classified intelligence programs in U.S. history: The Stargate Program.

Sgt. Lyn Buchanan spent years as a remote viewer, gathering intelligence for the U.S. government that no satellite or spy could access. He's seen ET bases on Earth. Facilities on Mars. Covert agendas that have been running for decades. And in sessions from 1998, he remote-viewed tipping points that are unfolding right now.

This isn't science fiction. This is declassified military intelligence work from a man who was there.

In this conversation, Lyn breaks down what military remote viewers discovered about competing ET agendas (some friendly, some not), why your subconscious mind has access to everything in all space and time, and what he believes is coming for humanity in the years ahead. He also shares how controlled remote viewing transformed his own life from debt to total self-sufficiency, and practical tools anyone can use: how to spot lies with four interrogation rules, how to trust gut signals your conscious mind can't decode, and how to prepare mentally, physically, and spiritually for hard times.

"We will be a major power in the universe," Lyn says. But only if we develop what we already have.

This is the conversation for anyone who suspects the reality they've been handed is smaller than the one they actually live in.
 
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.

You are not supposed to understand what a statement like that means. That is all part of the psy-op. Random, nonsensical statements—about subjects that have no basis in fact—that are supposed to make you question your belief system. Once you read something like that, it will always be in the back of your mind when you are confronted by actual, verifiable facts. It sows the tiniest seed of doubt that you can't shake off.
 
You are not supposed to understand what a statement like that means. That is all part of the psy-op. Random, nonsensical statements—about subjects that have no basis in fact—that are supposed to make you question your belief system. Once you read something like that, it will always be in the back of your mind when you are confronted by actual, verifiable facts. It sows the tiniest seed of doubt that you can't shake off.

I guess ‘you’ refers to somebody, maybe the soft-brained, but the bro-fluencer slopstream flushed through this thread generally removes doubt for me.
 
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