All About UFO's

[voodooless]

Yes but you are in the 'It's impossible, it's all nonsense and I'm not even going to entertain it' camp.

No, I'm in the "bring me solid evidence" camp And as for the Aliens question: I would give a similar answer to Obama.

I'm somewhere in between. I think it's highly unlikely but not impossible, and there are, currently, unanswered questions.

And yet:

Instead he's quick to deny, unprompted, that they're holding any captive. A bit like the Vietnamese government denying it was still holding American POW.

You're the one advocating for a cover-up...

 

[Mart68]

No, I'm in the "bring me solid evidence" camp And as for the Aliens question: I would give a similar answer to Obama.

And yet:

You're the one advocating for a cover-up...

That observation was meant to be a little bit tongue-in-cheek...

 

[PierreV]

another funny thing is how people who would not believe Obama when he made carefully constructed statements based on objective verifiable data suddenly believe one of his random snippets.

 

[Mort]

I'm somewhere in between. I think it's highly unlikely but not impossible, and there are, currently, unanswered questions.

Come on pick a side. My philosophy professor called agnosticism, "chicken atheism".

 

[mhardy6647]

Yes, he did.

fairly unequivocal is in interesting sort of phrase... kind of like reasonably pregnant or largely dead.

 

[Mart68]

Come on pick a side. My philosophy professor called agnosticism, "chicken atheism".

lol. Yes I am an agnostic, I consider it the only rational position. I have a philosophy degree and I'm a Catholic

 

[Chester]

reasonably pregnant

 

[mhardy6647]

I have a philosophy degree and I'm a Catholic

I'll pray for you.

 

[Mart68]

I'll pray for you.

Thanks, I need it.

 

[mhardy6647]

This thread is almost as entertaining as the long-running humor thread.

Probablistically, there's probably life and maybe even intelligence somewhere in the universe. Why it would end up here, though, stretches credulity.
Quite literally, one would (should) ask: what are the odds?

Consider some thought experiments in thermodynamics. It is absolutely possible that one can drip a single drop of India ink into water, disperse it by stirring, and - at some future point - the ink will coalesce again into a single bolus. Possible but almost unimaginably unlikely. It is absolutely and irrevocably possible that all of the molecules of atmospheric gases (oxygen, nitrogen, and all the rest) in a room will collect in one small corner -- but extremely unlikely.

As a postscript, I really, truly hope that "we" are not holding aliens hostage. That sure seems out of sync with the spirit, if perhaps not the letter, of the rule of law.

 

[mhardy6647]

He made no misstatement. The guy's got himself a time machine. Where do think he got that from? Walmart?

For anyone in this thread loath to click on blind/random links* I feel compelled to quote the synopsis of this tome, which is one for the ages.

When the president uses a time machine for political gain all hell breaks loose... well, not literally. Hell stays pretty much where it is. But a lot of unhappy consequences come about.

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* which I realize might be a vanishingly small number of participants of this thread, speaking of statistically unlikely events.

 

[Mart68]

Probablistically, there's probably life and maybe even intelligence somewhere in the universe. Why it would end up here, though, stretches credulity.
Quite literally, one would (should) ask: what are the odds?

But in a universe of infinite dimensions, all possibilities are actualized.

Personally my two favourites are that they travel from another dimension or that we live in a 'Matrix' style simulation and they are glitches or bots.

It's fun to speculate, it costs nothing, no animals are harmed. Except cattle, occasionally.

 

[mhardy6647]

But in a universe of infinite dimensions, all possibilities are actualized.

Personally my two favourites are that they travel from another dimension or that we live in a 'Matrix' style simulation and they are glitches or bots.

It's fun to speculate, it costs nothing, no animals are harmed. Except cattle, occasionally.

I don't think the universe is infinite... but I can't say I am sure of that.

 

[Petrushka]

I don't think the universe is infinite... but I can't say I am sure of that.

There are some compelling arguments against an infinite universe. If it exists, it cannot be static, and if it is not static, it would have to have ongoing processes that have not been observed.

 

[Petrushka]

lol. Yes I am an agnostic, I consider it the only rational position. I have a philosophy degree and I'm a Catholic

One can assert that religious origin stories are myths, without asserting positive knowledge of an alternative.

 

[somebodyelse]

My philosophy professor called agnosticism, "chicken atheism".

That sounds like a way to start an interesting discussion, as by my understanding of the terms they're independent.

 

[EJ3]

I don't think the universe is infinite... but I can't say I am sure of that.

Is that analogous (see something analog) to saying: I once thought that I was wrong but I was mistaken?

 

[kemmler3D]

I don't think the universe is infinite... but I can't say I am sure of that.

The universe (or existence in a broader sense) could be infinite without that requiring aliens to visit Earth. There are different kinds of infinity... For example there are infinite numbers between 1.0 and 2.0 but none of them are 3. There could be infinite universes and contrary to how it's portrayed in movies, spider-man may not be real in any of them.

I personally believe everything that is logically consistent happens "somewhere" because nothing is stopping it from happening, but it's an easy thing to believe because it implies nothing in particular for our own universe.

 

[Mort]

That sounds like a way to start an interesting discussion, as by my understanding of the terms they're independent.

Whatv else are we doing if not starting an interesting discussion? I think the terms are mutually exclusive.

 

[Petrushka]

Much of the knowable universe is already out of sight, and these regions are growing.

There is a school of thought that speculates the universe is closed, and that anything traveling in a straight line would return to its origin.