All About UFO's

[Chester]

Dr Nolan is supposed to get CT scans and other info to examine. Hopefully he does. He debunked one before.

He mildly dismissed a ridiculous claim. Ironically, he claims more ridiculous things himself these days.

 

[WillBrink]

Here is an interview, released today, with Rep. Anna Paulina Luna pertaining to the Congressional investigation of the UAP issue:

For those who don't want to view all of that show, most of the UAP/UFO talks happens from the beginning of the show. I enjoyed hearing what her thoughts/positions are on the topic being a public official (and a way cute one at that...), she supplies nothing new for those who follow the topic.

 

[Axo1989]

For those who don't want to view all of that show, most of the UAP/UFO talks happens from the beginning of the show. I enjoyed hearing what her thoughts/positions are on the topic being a public official (and a way cute one at that...), she supplies nothing new for those who follow the topic.

Any appeal from the rep's aesthetics don't quite balance 'experience'-ing our host Joe Bogan, so I dipped in carefully to see what the former had to say without seeing/hearing more than an instant of the latter. Trans-dimensional beings apparently, she's 'been told'. Etc. While I admired (and was mildly surprised by) her recent support of more modern working conditions for reps who are parents, etc, this video piece more strongly resembles satire (dredged up from the same bucket of congealed stupid that's been the mainstay of certain protagonists here). Quite the contrast to Anderson, who presents characteristic/uncommon intelligence in her interviews.

 

[Sir Sanders Zingmore]

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna

“Luna”, coincidence, I think not…

 

[terryforsythe]

“Luna”, coincidence, I think not…

Of course not. She is leading the Congressional UAP task force. But, also, there are plenty of recent interviews with Rep. Burlison, who also is on the UAP task force.

I will say this: It is very refreshing to see bicameral and bipartison cooperation in Congress, which otherwise has not happened for a very long time. Moreover, both the executive branch and legislative branch are leaning into the UAP investigation, which would have been considered political suicide just a few years ago.

What ultimately they will conclude I don't pretend to know. I suspect it all is man-made technologies. Even if that turns out to be the case, we need to get a handle on the money disappearing into special access programs, as well as re-establish elected governmental control over those programs, which are stated goals of the UAP task force. Thus, regardless of whether NHI really is involved, in my opinion the investigation is warranted and long over due.

 

[WillBrink]

Of course not. She is leading the Congressional UAP task force. But, also, there are plenty of recent interviews with Rep. Burlison, who also is on the UAP task force.

I will say this: It is very refreshing to see bicameral and bipartison cooperation in Congress, which otherwise has not happened for a very long time. Moreover, both the executive branch and legislative branch are leaning into the UAP investigation, which would have been considered political suicide just a few years ago.

What ultimately they will conclude I don't pretend to know. I suspect it all is man-made technologies. Even if that turns out to be the case, we need to get a handle on the money disappearing into special access programs, as well as re-establish elected governmental control over those programs, which are stated goals of the UAP task force. Thus, regardless of whether NHI really is involved, in my opinion the investigation is warranted and long over due.

What's interesting in the interview is she's clear she does not believe that's the case, and says she saw the evidence to convince her of that. She could be wrong, she could be being manipulated, she could be part of the dis info, but there it is. For a high level government official to say that clearly and unambiguously, is not a small thing.

 

[voodooless]

For a high level government official to say that clearly and unambiguously, is not a small thing.

Given the things the highest official regularly spouts, I would not value this very highly.

 

[terryforsythe]

What's interesting in the interview is she's clear she does not believe that's the case, and says she saw the evidence to convince her of that. She could be wrong, she could be being manipulated, she could be part of the dis info, but there it is. For a high level government official to say that clearly and unambiguously, is not a small thing.

I do not think she is willingly participating in a dissinformation campaign. It appears to me that she truly believes what she said.

Nonetheless, I have seen countless videos of what look to me to be balloons, airplanes, etc., but for which many in the UFO community insist are UAPs. The most compelling video I have seen is of the tic-tac, but Russ Coulthardt now states he knows that it is Lockheed technology. Moreover, although I commend Lu Elizondo for his action on this subject, twice now he has been duped into presenting photographs of mundane things as though they were UAPs. It seems to me that he is not adequately analyzing and vetting information he has been given. I don't think that issue is unique to him.

Like I said, I don't know what is the answer, but the more I look into this subject the more I lean away from the NHI hypothesis. I could be leaning in the wrong direction, but who knows. Maybe someday we will find the truth.

 

[antcollinet]

Maybe someday we will find the truth.

It's out there.

 

[Sir Sanders Zingmore]

Of course not. She is leading the Congressional UAP task force. But, also, there are plenty of recent interviews with Rep. Burlison, who also is on the UAP task force.

I will say this: It is very refreshing to see bicameral and bipartison cooperation in Congress, which otherwise has not happened for a very long time. Moreover, both the executive branch and legislative branch are leaning into the UAP investigation, which would have been considered political suicide just a few years ago.

What ultimately they will conclude I don't pretend to know. I suspect it all is man-made technologies. Even if that turns out to be the case, we need to get a handle on the money disappearing into special access programs, as well as re-establish elected governmental control over those programs, which are stated goals of the UAP task force. Thus, regardless of whether NHI really is involved, in my opinion the investigation is warranted and long over due.

Fascinating. But you seem to have missed my point somewhat.

 

[mhardy6647]

If the beings claim to be transdimensional, I certainly hope they were under oath. I mean, besides... how can we tell if they are transdimensional? Can we observe... transdimensional stuff? With what instruments?

As always, though .. y'all are implored to consider the ramifications of trans- and multidemsionality on the claims about hifi cables and better sounding amplifiers. I am NOT being facetious... do you believe NHI or UAP physics can be different than ours, but audiophile physics cannot?

 

[terryforsythe]

Fascinating. But you seem to have missed my point somewhat.

What is that point?

 

[terryforsythe]

As always, though .. y'all are implored to consider the ramifications of trans- and multidemsionality on the claims about hifi cables and better sounding amplifiers. I am NOT being facetious... do you believe NHI or UAP physics can be different than ours, but audiophile physics cannot?

As noted, I lean away from the NHI hypothesis, but I do not rule it out completely.

Indeed, there is so much about physics that we do not understand that it is difficult to definitively rule some things out. As an example, some prominant physicists (e.g., Hugh Everett, Bryce DeWitt, David Deutsch, Max Tegmark, Brian Greene, etc.) believe in the "Many Worlds" interpretation of quantum physics. I am doubtful of that interpretation, but if it is correct, potentially it could open up possibilities we now do not see nor understand. Also, if the ER=EPR conjecture proposed by prominant physicists Dr. Leonard Susskind and Dr. Juan Maldacena is correct, that also could open up possibilities. Still, we are far from understanding the fundmental nature of reality, and there is much disagreement among physicists as to the direction we need to go to find it. For example, there is still disagreement over the measurement problem in quantum mechanics.

If and when we ever develop a "Theory of Everything" that solves the measurement problem, solves the inconsistancies between quantum mechanics and General Relativity, and makes predictions which can be successfully tested, then we will have more insight.

 

[Sir Sanders Zingmore]

What is that point?

Given the subject matter of this thread her name is rather amusing

 

[WillBrink]

I do not think she is willingly participating in a dissinformation campaign. It appears to me that she truly believes what she said.

Nonetheless, I have seen countless videos of what look to me to be balloons, airplanes, etc., but for which many in the UFO community insist are UAPs. The most compelling video I have seen is of the tic-tac, but Russ Coulthardt now states he knows that it is Lockheed technology. Moreover, although I commend Lu Elizondo for his action on this subject, twice now he has been duped into presenting photographs of mundane things as though they were UAPs. It seems to me that he is not adequately analyzing and vetting information he has been given. I don't think that issue is unique to him.

Like I said, I don't know what is the answer, but the more I look into this subject the more I lean away from the NHI hypothesis. I could be leaning in the wrong direction, but who knows. Maybe someday we will find the truth.

I don't disagree, but we have to allow for all possibilities at this time.

 

[terryforsythe]

Given the subject matter of this thread her name is rather amusing

I totally missed that.

 

[terryforsythe]

This video is an interview with Dr. Beatriz Villarroel pertaining to her investigation of historical astronomical plates pre-dating the launch of Sputnik. In those plates she and her team have identified objects that, to them, appear to be in geosynchronous orbit and artificial in nature. Moreover, peaks in the detection of such objects correlate with reported UFO sightings and nuclear tests. She and her team have submitted a scientific paper with their results.

My original hypothesis was that the plates may have been damaged by nuclear fallout, similar to the Kodac film issue, but she addresses that in the interview.

 

[RayDunzl]

moon landings were faked

Having personally witnessed the launch of one of the later Saturn V moon rockets from as close as I could get to it, I'd have to rate it as a most excellent fake.

 

[Axo1989]

What's interesting in the interview is she's clear she does not believe that's the case, and says she saw the evidence to convince her of that. She could be wrong, she could be being manipulated, she could be part of the dis info, but there it is. For a high level government official to say that clearly and unambiguously, is not a small thing.

Why miss the obvious? She could lack some necessary cognitive or meta-cognitive abilities. That’s not a small thing. Nor a lonely place at all in this subject domain. Or in high office.

 

[Axo1989]

Of course not. She is leading the Congressional UAP task force. But, also, there are plenty of recent interviews with Rep. Burlison, who also is on the UAP task force.

I will say this: It is very refreshing to see bicameral and bipartison cooperation in Congress, which otherwise has not happened for a very long time. Moreover, both the executive branch and legislative branch are leaning into the UAP investigation, which would have been considered political suicide just a few years ago.

What ultimately they will conclude I don't pretend to know. I suspect it all is man-made technologies. Even if that turns out to be the case, we need to get a handle on the money disappearing into special access programs, as well as re-establish elected governmental control over those programs, which are stated goals of the UAP task force. Thus, regardless of whether NHI really is involved, in my opinion the investigation is warranted and long over due.

The play space for ‘political suicide’ has all but vanished in certain jurisdictions, and certainly shifted, wouldn’t you say?