All About UFO's

[Audiofire]

Don't forget, thousands of witnesses including reputable people are lying or can't remember stuff. Whatever.

 

[Mart68]

Don't forget, thousands of witnesses including reputable people are lying or can't remember stuff. Whatever.

Many pass multiple polygraph tests. But that just means they're convinced it really happened, not that it did.

The 'I was in bed and I woke up with a light filling the room' scenarios are pretty common. Most likely just vivid dreams that seem real.

There are a few cases were it's pretty certain something very odd did happen. They're what hold my interest in the subject. It doesn't need to be aliens as far as I'm concerned, I'm just curious about what actually occurred.

 

[Chester]

There are a few cases were it's pretty certain something very odd did happen. They're what hold my interest in the subject. It doesn't need to be aliens as far as I'm concerned, I'm just curious about what actually occurred.

I think that’s perfectly reasonable and fair.

 

[Axo1989]

Define a 'clear' photograph. What are your parameters?

The image I selected is colour, is taken from a reasonably short distance (i.e not just a dot in the sky which could be anything) and has enough visible features to make identification as a conventional airborne object non-straightforward.

It is also just copied from the internet and therefore image quality compared to the original image will be degraded to at least some degree. There's no way around that last parameter.

Haha, I didn’t ask you if I thought it was a clear photograph! I simply asked if you really thought it was …

Because that’s what you actually said! Don’t worry, I’m no longer expecting straight answers.

 

[Mart68]

Haha, I didn’t ask you if I thought it was a clear photograph! I simply asked if you really thought it was …

Because that’s what you actually said! Don’t worry, I’m no longer expecting straight answers.

If I actually said that then why would you need to ask me?

 

[Axo1989]

If I actually said that then why would you need to ask me?

Because while you said “very clear photographs of objects” the example you posted appeared to be small, low resolution, full of compression artefacts and out of focus. While that was a bit hilarious, I asked to give you some benefit of the doubt, of course.

 

[WillBrink]

So this model suggests humanity was very "lucky" to exist as early as we did in the universe, we are far ahead of our time, and the universe is empty, but will fill up with life in the far future. Conversely, NHI is expanding fast enough we simply can't see them. So says professor Robin Hanson from George Mason University on LF. For those who want the details, paper "A Simple Model of Grabby Aliens" is: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2102.01522v1

 

[Andysu]

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[Andysu]

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[WillBrink]

I wonder how many here have even seen Commander Fravor's testimony at the congressional hearings while under oath? It should be noted all that was corroborated by his co pilot and other two pilots, his wingman in the other F-18, Lt. Cmdr. Alex Dietrich. The event also corroborated by the advanced radar systems operator from the USS Prinston (posted here before...) and vids, etc. So, all are delusional, lying, or accurate as to what happened that day. No claims as to what it was by them, only that the performance of the craft was like nothing they'd ever seen, or imagined existed. None of the possible explinations are logical nor acceptable without further information. Short verison via 60 Minutes:

 

[Andysu]

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[PierreV]

I wonder how many here have even seen Commander Fravor's testimony at the congressional hearings while under oath?

Everyone with a modicum of interest?

 

[Chester]

I wonder how many here have even seen Commander Fravor's testimony at the congressional hearings while under oath? It should be noted all that was corroborated by his co pilot and other two pilots, his wingman in the other F-18, Lt. Cmdr. Alex Dietrich. The event also corroborated by the advanced radar systems operator from the USS Prinston (posted here before...) and vids, etc. So, all are delusional, lying, or accurate as to what happened that day. No claims as to what it was by them, only that the performance of the craft was like nothing they'd ever seen, or imagined existed. None of the possible explinations are logical nor acceptable without further information. Short verison via 60 Minutes:

This is old news. Plus Dietrich’s account does not always marry up with Fravor’s. Not saying either is lying just that there are discrepancies, so it clearly is not as clear cut as some would have us believe.

 

[WillBrink]

Everyone with a modicum of interest?

You'd hope...

 

[Sir Sanders Zingmore]

I wonder how many here have even seen Commander Fravor's testimony at the congressional hearings while under oath? It should be noted all that was corroborated by his co pilot and other two pilots, his wingman in the other F-18, Lt. Cmdr. Alex Dietrich. The event also corroborated by the advanced radar systems operator from the USS Prinston (posted here before...) and vids, etc. So, all are delusional, lying, or accurate as to what happened that day. No claims as to what it was by them, only that the performance of the craft was like nothing they'd ever seen, or imagined existed. None of the possible explinations are logical nor acceptable without further information. Short verison via 60 Minutes:

When the audio buddies all hear night and day differences with quantum dots they can’t all be delusional. Right?

 

[Axo1989]

Everyone with a modicum of interest?

Now where did I put my modicum? I swear it was here yesterday …

 

[WillBrink]

When the audio buddies all hear night and day differences with quantum dots they can’t all be delusional. Right?

If you think there's any equivalency there, I rest my case. What works for you, fine by me.

 

[Taiga]

Just watched the 60 minutes interview. I’m a bit puzzled.

How do we account for their statements that the people who knew them, people who apparently worked very closely with them, their own shipmates, ridiculed their story? Shipmates that depended on their judgement and abilities to defend the ship from hostile attacks.

If trained military comrades did not take them seriously, why should the general public?

 

[Axo1989]

Just watched the 60 minutes interview. I’m a bit puzzled.

How do we account for their statements that the people who knew them, people who apparently worked very closely with them, their own shipmates, ridiculed their story? Shipmates that depended on their judgement and abilities to defend the ship from hostile attacks.

If trained military comrades did not take them seriously, why should the general public?

Fox Mulder suffered the ignominy of doubt from peers. Hoping these prescient pilots keep holding their heads high.

Even modicums aren't enough for me as "my country" isn't graced with that 60 Minutes video, apparently.

 

[Sir Sanders Zingmore]

If you think there's any equivalency there, I rest my case. What works for you, fine by me.

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As I keep saying (to the point of boredom for everyone - sorry), it’s amazing how the rigour that’s applied to extraordinary claims everywhere else on ASR seems to be almost completely absent from this thread.
That’s the equivalency.