All About UFO's

[terryforsythe]

"god did it"

Referred to as "intelligent design". It makes it more digestable for the scientific community. Kind of like UAP is more digestable than UFO for the public at large.

 

[WillBrink]

Well sure, but the fact that it could be non-zero is what is interesting to speculate about. I think the counter argument to this is that your probability calculation is based on our flawed understanding of our universe, incomplete at least. We consistently learn how much we don't know, but yes it could be anything really. There are theories.

Some being Vacuum Energy, Quintessence, Space Wrinkles, and or, a flaw in GR:

What is Dark Energy? Inside Our Accelerating, Expanding Universe - NASA Science

Some 13.8 billion years ago, the universe began with a rapid expansion we call the big bang. After this initial expansion, which lasted a fraction of a

science.nasa.gov

Me, I think it's the last one, and there is no dark energy, it just that our current models can't fully explain our observations but will some day.

 

[WillBrink]

Referred to as "intelligent design". It makes it more digestable for the scientific community. Kind of like UAP is more digestable than UFO for the public at large.

I think ID is an interesting mental exercise, and the fine tuned universe topic compelling as to support for ID. That's different than "God did it" at least. While I don't believe said fine tuned universe demonstrates proof of ID per se, I do find the explanations for fine tuned universe (multi verse) highly unsatisfying, and without any evidence.

 

[Somafunk]

A video just came out, linked below, claiming that one of the primary sources of the WSJ article I referenced a few days ago is Susan Gaugh, who works with the DoD and who's own Linkedin profile states her expertise in psychological operations. Susan Gaugh is a contoversial figure when it comes to the UAP topic, to say the least. The video claims the WSJ article itself is part of a psychological operation and goes into depth debunking the article.

Why do you post such bat shit crazy loony tune video creators who’s entire existence is to fill the voids left by vacationing brain cells in the minds of the gullible?, if you’re attempting to sway non believers with your posts then you are not doing a good job

 

[Audiofire]

Bias goes in the other direction too by blindly trying to debunk things

 

[terryforsythe]

Why do you post such bat shit crazy loony tune video creators who’s entire existence is to fill the voids left by vacationing brain cells in the minds of the gullible?, if you’re attempting to sway non believers with your posts then you are not doing a good job

Why do you post such bat crazy loony replies. Don't like it, then why in the heck are you reading a UFO thread?

 

[Somafunk]

Why do you post such bat crazy loony replies. Don't like it, then why in the heck are you reading a UFO thread?

Have you examined his YouTube channel and videos?, to post such a conspiracy and “alternative” facts led person on here pisses all over the “science” in ASR

 

[Petrushka]

There is video of an anti-aircraft missile in Iran circling aimlessly after being fired at an F-35. I don’t really trust anything on the internet, but the caption asserts that the missile or the targeting radar is being spoofed.

Without taking this particular claim at face value, I do believe, from other sources, that this can be done.

 

[WillBrink]

A video just came out, linked below, claiming that one of the primary sources of the WSJ article I referenced a few days ago is Susan Gaugh, who works with the DoD and who's own Linkedin profile states her expertise in psychological operations. Susan Gaugh is a contoversial figure when it comes to the UAP topic, to say the least. The video claims the WSJ article itself is part of a psychological operation and goes into depth debunking the article.

Good vid. He breaks it down well. It will change no minds on either side however, and those on the fence will remain on the fence me thinks. It's really weak sauce from that paper. Hazing rituals indeed...

 

[WillBrink]

Speaking of black triangles, via posts #4,086 and #4,091, those have been claimed as a super secret aircraft called the TR-3B. Again, even the ultra scepticle US government debunker (see posts listed) says those are legit. Here's a report not from a UFO/UAP channel, but a defense focused channel. The large triangular craft are real. What they are is still unclear, all possibilities are difficult to fully accept without more evidence:

 

[mhardy6647]

Speculating about unknown physics in combination with known physics just gives us a narrower path to the same kind of fantastical nonsense though. Here's my crack at it:

Black hole cosmology turns out to be true and our universe is a black hole within a 4-D "master" universe, which is trillions of years older than our own. The vastly advanced Inhabitants of that universe can access ours by manipulating the 3D surface of the 4D black hole, enabling them to appear anywhere in the universe at any time.

Actual physics + superficially plausible sci-fi is not really better than "god did it" unless there's some actual evidence to go on.

This phenomenon is, I think, the explanation for esoteric hifi cables, "free energy" products sold on the internet, quack medical products, and other such claptrap.

 

[Audiofire]

Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution. It is, strictly speaking, a real factor in scientific research.

Cosmic Religion by Albert Einstein (1931)

 

[WillBrink]

This was interesting because his is a channel about fighter jets, not UAP/UFO. He's never done a vid on the topic, decided he would now talk about his two experiences, now that it's not such a taboo for pilots. So he's lying, delusional, or gives an accurate account of his experience:

 

[WillBrink]

Speaking of black triangles yet again, he's made a niche for himself as a UFO/UAP debunker, yet, saw and experienced what so many others have. What was it?

"In this episode of “The Basement Office,” Steven Greenstreet reveals a close encounter he had with a black, triangular UFO in Provo, Utah, in 2003. Nick Pope helps Steven come to terms with what he saw, and helps explain why so many similar UFO sightings go unreported. They discuss why it couldn’t have been a B-2 bomber or secret government project like the rumored Aurora plane or TR-3B. Nick suggests Steven was “shown” this particular UFO for a reason."

 

[Audiofire]

How people react to the UFO phenomenon, and why the truth sometimes faces resistance

 

[Axo1989]

This was interesting because his is a channel about fighter jets, not UAP/UFO. He's never done a vid on the topic, decided he would now talk about his two experiences, now that it's not such a taboo for pilots. So he's lying, delusional, or gives an accurate account of his experience:

TL;DW "I haven't made a video about UAP experiences yet" and realised I was leaving so many clicks on the table.

Also: "there has been a stigma" but now we don't give any amount of shits about things being true in the new age of de-stigmatisation.

And finally: "I wish I had footage of this, I don't" but "I'll use some AI images"

 

[Axo1989]

Speaking of black triangles yet again, he's made a niche for himself as a UFO/UAP debunker, yet, saw and experienced what so many others have. What was it?

"In this episode of “The Basement Office,” Steven Greenstreet reveals a close encounter he had with a black, triangular UFO in Provo, Utah, in 2003. Nick Pope helps Steven come to terms with what he saw, and helps explain why so many similar UFO sightings go unreported. They discuss why it couldn’t have been a B-2 bomber or secret government project like the rumored Aurora plane or TR-3B. Nick suggests Steven was “shown” this particular UFO for a reason."

And he's ... wait for it ... a New York Post reporter.

Presumably someone is changing the absorbent pads at the base of this thread as you two keep funnelling in the YouTube slop until it's brimming full.

 

[Axo1989]

Why do you post such bat crazy loony replies. Don't like it, then why in the heck are you reading a UFO thread?

I can't speak for @Somafunk or others, but in my case, for reliable amusement (as others have pointed out, much like the cable threads).

 

[Audiofire]

Ah yes, we found someone who knows everything about the topic and contributed totally conclusive debunking of the thread

Nothing to see here, go back to watching mindless TV and stop asking questions about the government

 

[Axo1989]

Positing "mindless TV" as the alternative to shameless YouTube click-whoring is a false dichotomy, obviously.

But breathless JAQ is a time-tested route to clicks from the credulous, as we continue to see here. The truth is out there, right?