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All About UFO's

"I can't explain what I saw out there..."

Well, I'm happy to wait for someone who can.
Yep.

Then again when she 'saw something flying' and could not identify it that would count as an unidentified flying object or an unidentified aerial phenomenon.
She just can't explain it nor what it is nor came from and therefor is a UFO.
 
Which is his main work bulk, exceeding all the others.
There's a saying roughly translated as "God never gives them all" meaning that everyone of us has his weak points.
At the time, I think alchemy and numerology were considered credible scientific pursuits. And, the upside for cracking them would be enormous. Today we can point and say "nonsense", but I wonder how prevalent that view was at the time...

Maybe the lesson is pretty pertinent in this thread. Discovering UAPs are NHI would be pretty close in terms of emotional impact to discovering divine secrets about the end of the world in the bible. A true revelation. Of course, even the bible itself says don't bother... but he did anyway.

Even if you are literally the smartest person on the planet, you can be catastrophically wrong if you go further than hard facts carry you.
 
Haven't read his stuff, but did read the wikipedia page on him. As ever I think we have to ask, is there any tangible evidence (no), and do we have reason to believe his experiences can't be explained by plain old sleep paralysis or similar psychological events?
 
Haven't read his stuff, but did read the wikipedia page on him. As ever I think we have to ask, is there any tangible evidence (no), and do we have reason to believe his experiences can't be explained by plain old sleep paralysis or similar psychological events?
How do you explain his prolific output of both fiction and non-fiction books then?
I've read three fiction books in the Alien Hunter series. And now I'll start the non-fiction, from the beginning. The ideas in those three books aren't exactly typical human thinking.
 
Anyone read Whitley Strieber's books?
No, but I watched a documentary about him last year...
Haven't read his stuff, but did read the wikipedia page on him...
A synopsis of human culture in the time of the internet in three sentences.
And, gentlemen (@Lekha, @Mart68, @kemmler3D) I do not, in any way, intend to besmirch any of you, but rather the way "information" is held, treated, and disseminated in the current day.
We live in a time, and place, of meta-analysis. I don't think that's an altogether good thing (as much as I love analysis of analyses).

I thought that ASR was sort of meant to be a "the buck stops here" way of documenting and improving the flow of factual information -- but only in the realm of hifi audio, I guess.
 
A synopsis of human culture in the time of the internet in three sentences.
And, gentlemen (@Lekha, @Mart68, @kemmler3D) I do not, in any way, intend to besmirch any of you, but rather the way "information" is held, treated, and disseminated in the current day.
We live in a time, and place, of meta-analysis. I don't think that's an altogether good thing (as much as I love analysis of analyses).

I thought that ASR was sort of meant to be a "the buck stops here" way of documenting and improving the flow of factual information -- but only in the realm of hifi audio, I guess.
I'm not sure that considering something to be interesting is to be automatically conflated with accepting or endorsing it.

There was a show on UK television back in the 1970s called 'Arthur C Clarke's Mysterious Worlds'. Each week a different topic considered - Aliens, Bigfoot... you get the picture. Nowadays TV is chock full of that stuff but that show was the first. I found it a fascinating watch.

I still watch shows now like 'Ancient Aliens'. That doesn't mean I think Bigfoot is real. I am just as sceptical about that stuff as I am about improbable audio-related claims. However, it still interests me.

What interests me and what doesn't is beyond my conscious control.
 
is there any tangible evidence (no)
Thank you for stating that concisely. Oftentimes people state there is no evidence, when they really mean is that there is no indisputable physical evidence. There are tons and tons of evidence out there, but none that I have seen that indisputably supports the NHI hypothesis. I have seen, though, evidence proffered as supporting the NHI hypothesis that, in my opinion, beyond a reasonable doubt does not.

Supposedly there is indisputable evidence, but it is held in secret and not publicly available. But, the key term is "supposedly". In my opinion, all we are hearing are stories, albeit from some highly credentialed people, and the number of credentialed people coming out keeps growing. Stories are stories, though, and anyone can make them up.

I have tried to keep an open mind on this subject, and faced much ridicule in this thread for doing so. But, I admit that lately my doubts about the NHI hypothesis have been growing. Some of those pushing the NHI narrative seem, at least to me, to be lacking a proper level of skepticism and too quickly ignore analyses that contradict their interpretation of the facts. Also, some people seem too willing to believe anything that aligns with their personal belief, regardless of the lack of persuasive evidence.

All that being said, I still have an interest in the topic, but perhaps not as strong as a few months back. Many people are expecting the new administration to release more information on the topic. We'll see if that comes to be.
 
How do you explain his prolific output of both fiction and non-fiction books then?
I've read three fiction books in the Alien Hunter series. And now I'll start the non-fiction, from the beginning. The ideas in those three books aren't exactly typical human thinking.
Check out the life story and work of Philip K. Dick. One of the most prolific and high-profile Sci-Fi authors ever, (wrote the stories adapted into Blade Runner, Total Recall, Minority report, etc.) - also famously mentally ill and plagued with hallucinations / delusions that he eventually became convinced were real, and constituted contact from extra/trans-dimensional beings. If you read some of his later novels, the illness is not subtle. The same thing that drove a lot of his creativity was also quite a burden in that sense.

So, Strieber would not be the first science fiction author to be afflicted with that sort of thing...
 
I thought that ASR was sort of meant to be a "the buck stops here" way of documenting and improving the flow of factual information -- but only in the realm of hifi audio, I guess.
OK, fair point, I am commenting on something I didn't read. On the other hand, if Strieber had more than personal testimony to offer as evidence for NHIs I think it would have shown up on Wikipedia. We've seen a lot of personal testimony but it doesn't seem to get us any closer to a conclusion.
 
Check out the life story and work of Philip K. Dick. One of the most prolific and high-profile Sci-Fi authors ever, (wrote the stories adapted into Blade Runner, Total Recall, Minority report, etc.) - also famously mentally ill and plagued with hallucinations / delusions that he eventually became convinced were real, and constituted contact from extra/trans-dimensional beings. If you read some of his later novels, the illness is not subtle. The same thing that drove a lot of his creativity was also quite a burden in that sense.

So, Strieber would not be the first science fiction author to be afflicted with that sort of thing...
Oh, I've read most of those books, and books written by named, and unnamed writers of ancient days. I simply asked whether people here had read Whitley Strieber's books, as this is a thread on UFOs. If they haven't, there's not much more to be said on the matter.
 
I thought that ASR was sort of meant to be a "the buck stops here" way of documenting and improving the flow of factual information -- but only in the realm of hifi audio, I guess.
Exactly right.
The type of the claims made in this thread would be given very short shrift if they were made about audio.
Maybe we could combine them, my cables sound better after their deep-space cryogenic treatment on board a flying saucer
 
The type of the claims made in this thread would be given very short shrift if they were made about audio.
Rob Watts, engineer and creator of many high-performance DACs, with decades of industry experience and a substantial reputation at risk, claims he can hear noise at -300dB. Naturally we have to consider the possibility of 5-dimensional sound waves due to his claim, otherwise it wouldn't be possible to hear anything that quiet. Many youtubers corroborate Watts' claims - they can't explain what they heard, exactly, but where there's smoke, there's fire. Perhaps the government will release their secret research on transdimensional acoustics during this administration.
 
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How do you explain his prolific output of both fiction and non-fiction books then?
Compared to the other zillion or so scifi authors, including me?
I've read three fiction books in the Alien Hunter series. And now I'll start the non-fiction, from the beginning. The ideas in those three books aren't exactly typical human thinking.
I'm guessing you have not read that much scifi?
 
At the time, I think alchemy and numerology were considered credible scientific pursuits. And, the upside for cracking them would be enormous. Today we can point and say "nonsense", but I wonder how prevalent that view was at the time...

Maybe the lesson is pretty pertinent in this thread. Discovering UAPs are NHI would be pretty close in terms of emotional impact to discovering divine secrets about the end of the world in the bible. A true revelation. Of course, even the bible itself says don't bother... but he did anyway.

Even if you are literally the smartest person on the planet, you can be catastrophically wrong if you go further than hard facts carry you.
Did you ever read the Bible i mean from start to end word by word by yourself ?
 
I'm not sure that considering something to be interesting is to be automatically conflated with accepting or endorsing it.
it doesn't. It's the third-hand/arm's-length assessment of primary content that's become endemic.
We do all do it nowadays; I am really not picking on anyone. It just struck me that the question: Anyone read Whitley Strieber's books?
drew not one but two different no, but... responses.

EDIT: Arguably, three such responses -- although @WillBrink at least saw the person himself in the context of interviews.
I should say that I have no idea who Whitley Strieber is, what books he's written, or what they're about... so, at least, I could reply with a hard No. ;)
 
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it doesn't. It's the third-hand/arm's-length assessment of primary content that's become endemic.
We do all do it nowadays; I am really not picking on anyone. It just struck me that the question: Anyone read Whitley Strieber's books?
drew not one but two different no, but... responses.

EDIT: Arguably, three such responses -- although @WillBrink at least saw the person himself in the context of interviews.
I should say that I have no idea who Whitley Strieber is, what books he's written, or what they're about... so, at least, I could reply with a hard No. ;)
I misunderstood, apologies.

Had he been a physicist or a philosopher you'd have had a point. In fact, he writes horror novels, but is most famous for his book 'Communion' which recounts his experience of being visited by NHI.
 
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