DEALUX
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K612 is significantly more balanced and cheaper.Good result thanks for the review. I'm very curious to see how the akg 712 preforms too.
K612 is significantly more balanced and cheaper.Good result thanks for the review. I'm very curious to see how the akg 712 preforms too.
I have measured it pretty much the same and can 'confirm' Amir's measurements and findings.
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The kink one sees at 100Hz (most obvious in the GD) is caused by the pads. It loves to absorb and release 'energy' at that frequency. Most pads do b.t.w. it is not a driver thing. When changing pads on headphone I often see it shift higher or lower.
CSD shows the 5kHz part to be a resonance.
For those that want to address the small treble peak passively:
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It is a good sounding headphone. Too bad about the mechanical issues and comfort of the pads as well as the microphonic cable. Otherwise I would have kept it.
Of course this is the case, since the GRAS ear is based on averaged HRTF's of numerous people and the ear resonance emulation alone creates the need for compensation w/ headphones, also the angle of attack (I don't know which one Harman used for the curve) matters for the resultant HRTF. So, headphones can emulate various angles of attack from speakers & different environments by mangling the HRTF. Flat plate is pretty much like the anechoic chamber for speakers, since it considers only the pure driver's characteristics. A lot like Klippel, I think.First blush, it appears that the acoustics of the GRAS artificial ear are largely responsible for the shape of the “Target Curve”.
It also appears that many of the AKG K371 wiggles and squiggles are consistent with the headphones alone and not dependent on the GRAS artificial ear to measure them. To think of it another way, flat plane measurements can tell us a lot about the performance and comparisons of headphones. Notice I did not say a word about how the headphones sound, that will come later.
Thanks DT
If you mean the relative brightness, keep in mind that it is different from person to person.K612 is significantly more balanced and cheaper.
Or the K702 which measures almost the same as the K612, has a removable cable and is cheaper (at least in Australia on Amazon)K612 is significantly more balanced and cheaper.
"Best" is not the right word. I would say the 800s is the most fun in the way it opens of layers of music. I don't think what it is doing is truthful to the original sound so in that regard, the K371 is more "accurate."@amirm Would you say that out of all headphones you have reviewed, the HD800S is the best (allowing for EQ of course) ?
It "should" but I have not tried it so don't want to say for sure. Anyone have experience they can share?Could an Android phone supply enough power to make a big noise?
From XZ1 Compact, I have to set the volume to 2/3 of full output, and believe me, it ain't a powerhouse, it has problems driving low-impedance IEMs, so I guess most smartphones will do just fine. I barely use less than 100% when using anything with 3.5mm here, and K371s play just great.It "should" but I have not tried it so don't want to say for sure. Anyone have experience they can share?
Plenty of volume and bass on my cheap Moto smartphone, the output of my [really cheap] Acer Aspire 5 laptop and my Fiio M3K DAP. The output of the Fiio DAP is 25mW @ 32 ohms, 42mW @ 16 ohms.It "should" but I have not tried it so don't want to say for sure. Anyone have experience they can share?
It "should" but I have not tried it so don't want to say for sure. Anyone have experience they can share?
A bridge too far this time round Frank, but my interest in active headphones with sophisticated eq has been piqued...I bought some soon after they came out.
They work well and are exquisitely made but were not in production long so I would imagine not repairable if they went wrong and they don't have a direct way to use them bypassing the DSP so if they -do- go wrong they can't be used without repair.
I disagree, K612 has lean lows. The main take away for me is the K612 enhances older recordings, while the K371 shines with modern recordings.K612 is significantly more balanced and cheaper.
Yes, this is quite a trick. An easy to drive headphone with a ton of clean bass and low distortion. Is this only possible with closed-back headphones and IEMs?When I saw the subbass in the FR plot. I would have wagered my life thesr were going to have bass distortion through the roof. I couldnt believe my eyes when I saw how low the bass distortions are for a headphone this cheap with a boost of that kind and virtually no roll off.
Basically, yes.wondering if this headphone is basically same headphone but with BT?
https://www.akg.com/Headphones/Professional Headphones/K371-BT-.html
Apologies, I should have read entire thread before asking a question. Thanks
No need to apologize. That was my 1st question when I saw the BT model as well.Apologies, I should have read entire thread before asking a question. Thanks