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Aiyima A80: TPA3255 Stereo Amplifier with ESS9038Q2M DAC: First Look

Most integrated Class D amps with a subwoofer output lack a high-pass filter (HPF). Including one would have significantly disrupted SMSL's dominance in the market with models like the AO200 and AO300.

The Wiim Amp, even with an HPF, doesn’t match the power and performance of SMSL's Infineon chips or Aiyima’s TI-based amps.

Adding an HPF to an integrated amp typically requires a miniDSP, which costs several hundred dollars.

They missed a big opportunity here. A high-pass filter is a game-changer for a 2.1 desk setup compared to the low-pass-only sub out found in amps like the AO300.
Sorry, I originally misread you as saying that including HPF would be a big mistake, hence why I questioned you (I must’ve imagined a comma after the initial, “No.”).

-Ed
 
People hi ! :D

I think you shouldn't rush and wait for the very next release of an O-NOORUS amplifier that takes the essence of this amplifier but with components that have better features (like the DAC ship, BT chip,...:cool:) as well as with additional features (like HDMI ARC :) )...
... it won't be long before you find out ;)

PS: I don't understand why AIYIMA added (fakes) 'TRS' entries that don't bring ANYTHING AT ALL ???
Does it have an HPF?
 
Hi.

It's up to O-NOORUS to reveal the characteristics of its next products: I don't have this authorization, sorry.

However, I do believe that these models will probably somehow inherit the 'MOD' that I presented about their D1 amplifier ;)

In order to illustrate my words about this 'MOD' of the D1 O-NOORUS model, let me offer you this table ->

Spectrum comparison - CLASS D AMPLIFIERS.jpg


These are various models of well-known and rather well-rated Class D amplifiers in the AMIR ASR ranking :cool:

Regards.

PS: Sorry for my very bad English, I'm only a Frenchman (no one is perfect) -> LOL
 
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Do any of the chips used in this thing contain Gallium? 'Cause apparently China just announced an export ban on Gallium towards the US.
 
The RSL amp seems to avoid the high treble of most of the non-PFFB class D designs. Anyone know how they do that? I assume their little amp is a class D design as the case is not vented...
Pretty sure they're using the Infineon 12070 chip, but they describe it with a "proprietary audiophile pre-amp stage". Who knows? /shrug

Is PFFB specific to the TI chips used by Fosi and others, or is that a generic engineering design that applies to all amp chips?
 
People hi ! :D

I think you shouldn't rush and wait for the very next release of an O-NOORUS amplifier that takes the essence of this amplifier but with components that have better features (like the DAC ship, BT chip,...:cool:) as well as with additional features (like HDMI ARC :) )...
... it won't be long before you find out ;)

I think it might be appropriate to ask O-NOORUS about this :rolleyes:

PS: I don't understand why AIYIMA added (fakes) 'TRS' entries that don't bring ANYTHING AT ALL ???
Seems like an Advert???
 
Most integrated Class D amps with a subwoofer output lack a high-pass filter (HPF). Including one would have significantly disrupted SMSL's dominance in the market with models like the AO200 and AO300.

The Wiim Amp, even with an HPF, doesn’t match the power and performance of SMSL's Infineon chips or Aiyima’s TI-based amps.

Adding an HPF to an integrated amp typically requires a miniDSP, which costs several hundred dollars.

They missed a big opportunity here. A high-pass filter is a game-changer for a 2.1 desk setup compared to the low-pass-only sub out found in amps like the AO300.

I think paired with a WiiM Ultra this Amplifier will provide a very nice system. The Ultra has the subwoofer output and bass management with room correction EQ, LPF and HPF filters and a nice app to configure everything. Then adding this Amplifier via a digital output from the Wiim Ultra gives you decent power and nice VU meters. And you can use the trigger output from the WiiM Ultra to wake up this amplifier.
 
Yes, it is. Two new models will be released, including one comparable to this AIYIMA A80 amplifier but which surpasses it in every way.
Wait and see ;)

Both models will be with HDMI ARC...
... That's all I'm allowed to say and even more because in fact I'm spoiling their release :p

They are currently in the final stages of production :cool:
 
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Nouvelles.jpg



I can also specify that these two models integrate the same principle as my 'MOD' presented for the D1 ;)

Regards.
 
People hi :) .

Regarding this amplifier, don't be fooled by the 'TRS' (balanced) inputs :mad:

These are 'fake TRS inputs' since this amplifier uses the volume control chip NJW1194 which does not know how to 'process' a balanced signal o_O

You can check in the DATASHEET ;)

PS: and Bluetootht 'only' 5.2, 'old' ES9038, no HDMI ARC,...
... It all sounds a bit 'cheap' :(

Regards.
At some point the balanced audio signal coming in will have to be converted back to a single ended signal inside the amp. No point in keeping the signal symmetrical right until it reaches the speaker outputs.
 
at $230 i think this is a good device

like a lot of you guys I would echo the usual...

lose the TRS and slap in an hdmi

lose the RCA and all ADC stages

you need a subwoofer out with a menu controllable cut off AND slope

AND then put in main channel cut offs as well

also tell us if its a 48v 5amp psu so we can work out what the power is

with all the other stuff taking power i'd expect this is a true 70w 8 ohm device?
 
The product no longer appears to be on Amazon. When it was listed, they were quoting shipping a month or so out.
 
I offered to be a tester for them, but they said thanks but don't need any more of those right now...but it's kinda odd if they have pulled back the release date...?
 
Hi.

In fact, what you saw must have been pre-orders or worse: they have already had feedback from unhappy customers ?
At the moment, no one knows...

@ pieterv1:
What you have written is not correct.

The TPA255 is originally intended to work with a balanced signal as shown in the DATASHEET and even using a digital volume control it is achievable as shown in the DATASHEET of the NJW1195A chip for example - >

TPA3255.jpg

NJW1195A.jpg


I hope that the visualization of its pages will allow you an easy understanding and that it will have convinced you.

Regards.
 
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What you call "fake balanced" is all that really counts. Balanced interconnects. For long cables. That's it.
 
Hi.

Harkpabst:

I don't want to be derogatory or mock, that's not my attention, but inform yourself before writing incomplete and false arguments in context.

You only have to look at Amir's reviews to understand the differences in measurements between an unbalanced (RCA) and a balanced (XLR) input.

My 'false TRS' argument must have been misinterpreted:

I mean that AIYIMA should specify that its sockets are present for more 'compatibility' with other devices but that they do not offer the advantages of this type of link when its internal links are really in 'symmetrical 'mode' since internally it is necessarily used an OPAMP 'desymmetrizer' allowing to use the digital volume control chip NJW1194 which does NOT work in symmetrical mode.

Regards.
 
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9038q2m...really? Why couldn't the 9039q2m be delivered??? This is fail!
 
You only have to look at Amir's reviews to understand the differences in measurements between an unbalanced (RCA) and a balanced (XLR) input.
Except that these are balanced inputs, not unbalanced inputs. I would have expected you know what that means and how balanced inputs are not necessarily tied to symmetrical processing.

I mean that AIYIMA should specify that its sockets are present for more 'compatibility' with other devices but that they do not offer the advantages of this type of link when its internal links are really in 'symmetrical 'mode' since internally it is necessarily used an OPAMP 'desymmetrizer' allowing to use the digital volume control chip NJW1194 which does NOT work in symmetrical mode.
Not a matter of compatibility. Balanced inputs and outputs exist to support symmetrical shielded cables. This is the case here.

9038q2m...really? Why couldn't the 9039q2m be delivered??? This is fail!
What would be the difference? Can you explain the superiority of the 9039Q2M in more detail, please?
 
At some point the balanced audio signal coming in will have to be converted back to a single ended signal inside the amp. No point in keeping the signal symmetrical right until it reaches the speaker outputs.
Not really. TPA3255/51 are completely differential amplifiers. In fact the RCA inputs are converted to differential by the second stage on each opamp. You could feed differential inputs directly into the amp and completely bypass the opamps. These Opamps are there to generate a slight gain on the first stage and the output from this first stage feeds the second stage to create an inverted signal from left and right inputs to feed the amp.
 
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