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AIYIMA A07 TPA3255 Review (Amplifier)

Yeah, I understood that opinion the first time you stated it and I agree that the output chip and the op-amps pretty much define the performance of "All those amps...". IMO and FWIW, the question is: "For any particular use case, are those admittedly small differences you claim to hear significant enough for serious consideration?". In my case, no -- but YMMV and apparently does. Fair enough... :cool:
Unlikely to be so, though if compared in a valid controlled way (accurately level matched with a multimeter - all devices operating within power envelope - and most importantly : blind.)

In other words the perceived differences are far more likely to be coming from human perceptive bias than any real performance differences between the designs mentioned.
 
Beefier capacitors that give fuller sound for my opinion is better than A07 Max, A70, A80 for example. Plus the Premium 3.5mm output for example active sub is controlled from the master volume. Cooling is by heatsink screwed to the case using the case itself for heat expansion.
So, I just need to add larger 3300uF caps?

The problem with the A07 was the factory case entrapping the heat, hence why I designed my new case.
 
So, I just need to add larger 3300uF caps?

The problem with the A07 was the factory case entrapping the heat, hence why I designed my new case.
1000uF is sufficient. Large-capacity capacitors require careful consideration of the circuit, including the power supply used. In particular, when using a switching power supply, they can have a negative effect on the power supply.
 
Rotated my original 2023 A07 back into my workroom system for a bit. It's astonishing to me how much power this amp has compared to many of the other 3255 amps. I am using in nearfield with a 32v 5a power brick, Fosi P4 preamp set at centerpoint, DAC and Spotify lossless at 100%, and the Aiyima volume at about the 10 o'clock position. Definitely seems to have more volume with same parameters than, say, the Fosi V3 or the Fosi BT20a MAX. Still just a great little performer!

And, also important...it's barely warm to the touch!! Passive cooling for all!
 
Rotated my original 2023 A07 back into my workroom system for a bit. It's astonishing to me how much power this amp has compared to many of the other 3255 amps. I am using in nearfield with a 32v 5a power brick, Fosi P4 preamp set at centerpoint, DAC and Spotify lossless at 100%, and the Aiyima volume at about the 10 o'clock position. Definitely seems to have more volume with same parameters than, say, the Fosi V3 or the Fosi BT20a MAX. Still just a great little performer!

And, also important...it's barely warm to the touch!! Passive cooling for all!
The reason you feel that way is because the A07 at the time used the wrong volume pot. Volume pots normally used in audio equipment use a logarithmic taper A characteristic, but the A07 used the incorrect linear taper B characteristic, which resulted in the volume being close to maximum at the ten o'clock position. This means that even a small turn of the knob changes the volume significantly, making the amp feel very powerful. Recent models from various companies have changed this and now use the original taper A characteristic.
 
Rotated my original 2023 A07 back into my workroom system for a bit. It's astonishing to me how much power this amp has compared to many of the other 3255 amps. I am using in nearfield with a 32v 5a power brick, Fosi P4 preamp set at centerpoint, DAC and Spotify lossless at 100%, and the Aiyima volume at about the 10 o'clock position. Definitely seems to have more volume with same parameters than, say, the Fosi V3 or the Fosi BT20a MAX. Still just a great little performer!

And, also important...it's barely warm to the touch!! Passive cooling for all!


The Fosi V3 with the 48V/5A PSU will output 192w @4R max and the Aiyima A07 about 77W /4Rwith a 32V/5A PSU and 55W /4R with a 48V / 3A. Not sure the A07 can handle more than 90W with a 48V/5A PSU....
 
Was gonna say Fosi V3 is not "the top" power / current in the TPA3255 family but relatively close

Aiyama A07 is great value though for sure with efficient / easy to drive speakers, or if every last ounce of power / current is not desired for SPL.
 
The reason you feel that way is because the A07 at the time used the wrong volume pot. Volume pots normally used in audio equipment use a logarithmic taper A characteristic, but the A07 used the incorrect linear taper B characteristic, which resulted in the volume being close to maximum at the ten o'clock position. This means that even a small turn of the knob changes the volume significantly, making the amp feel very powerful. Recent models from various companies have changed this and now use the original taper A characteristic.
Are you sure? That's not what I measured on my A07s.

Having read something similar about the A07, I took one of mine apart. I couldn't see any identifying markings on the gain (volume) pot so that I couldn't tell what manufacturer and/or part number it was. Without that, I couldn't hunt down a data sheet that would specify exactly how the potentiometer would perform.

To satisfy my curiosity, I provided the A07 with a 1 kHz signal at 0.775 VRMS amplitude (the input sensitivity of the A07) and measured the output into three different dummy loads. (My system is tri-amped and one A07 drives 4 ohm woofers, another drives 16 ohm midrange drivers, and the third drives 8 ohm tweeters).

Since the A07 gain knob is sparsely marked, I marked mine as shown in this image:
A07 knob labels.jpg

I then measured the output voltage at each position on the gain dial. I repeated that exercise 3 times, one for each load. I averaged the two channels per amp to produce this graph:
voltage versus gain position.jpg

Here is the same data, but with the output presented in watts.
Watts at different gain dial positions.jpg

And here is that same data, but using a logarithmic scale for power. I omitted the data from the first two dial positions (A and B) because the output voltages were 0.
Watts at different gain dial positions - log scale.jpg

While the plots on the log graph aren't perfectly straight lines, they're pretty close.

I did find that the input sensitivity of the A07 was misstated because the waveform would clip before the input amplitude reached 0.775VRMS.
 
Interesting graphs! I have one of the original A04s too, and it is very different from the A07. With that amp, I normally play at full position on the amp and adjust sound with the preamp. By your measurements, then, I am normally using the A07 at just about 1 watt (position H). The input sensitivity could definitely play a part in this too.

Yeah, given how loud it gets for me in nearfield, even at the H position, I would not use the 48v/5a brick with the A07, where I find that brick is useful for the Fosi V3 and BT20a MAX amps.
 
Only if you're inputting a 0.775Vrms signal.

With standard 2V input, position H will result in 6.5W@4Ω, according to @Dave TR3A's measurements.
Yeah, good point. I think for instance my Modi 3 puts out about 1.5v if I remember aright. And then it's going through the V4 preamp on the low gain setting, so some gain from that too.
 
Only if you're inputting a 0.775Vrms signal.

With standard 2V input, position H will result in 6.5W@4Ω, according to @Dave TR3A's measurements.
I did the same measurements using a 2.0 VRMS input signal (everything else being the same). The amps would start to clip when the output amplitude reached about 20 VRMS
  • with a 4 ohm load, the amps would clips at between 19.95 and 20.15 VRMS. That was equivalent to between 99.8W and 100.5W.
  • with an 8 ohm load, the amps would clips at between 20.0 and 20.4 VRMS. That was equivalent to between 50.3W and 52W.
  • with a 16 ohm load, the amps would clips at between 20.1 and 20.8 VRMS. That was equivalent to between 26.0W and 26.1W.
Different A07 amps (I tested 3) would measure slightly differently. Also, the different channels (Left and Right) on each amp would also clip at slightly different output amplitudes.

These oscilloscope traces show the output signal at the gain (volume) dial position just before and just after clipping. Here's for a 2 VRMS input signal:
Aiyima A07 clipping - 2 VRMS into 4 ohms.jpg

And here's for a 0.775 VRMS input signal:
Aiyima A07 clipping - 775 mVRMS into 4 ohms.jpg

The three different A07 amps were named "woofer", "squawker", and "tweeter" because that's how I had configured them to drive my tri-amped Klipsch La Scala speakers.

Please be aware that setting the gain (volume) dial setting to the highest setting before clipping can be unsafe. At the different loads, the power could be so high as to damage the drivers.
Aiyima A07 - unsafe setting.jpg

Here are a few parting thoughts:
  • although the Aiyima A07 input sensitivity is specified to be 0.775 VRMS, I found that it was actually closer to 0.5 VRMS (i.e., -12 dB).
  • higher amplitude input signals result in a smaller usable range of the gain (volume) knob
  • different amps -- and different channels on the same amp -- perform slightly differently
  • the A07 can easily overdrive many common drivers; setting the gain (volume) conservatively can prevent damage to speakers
 
Interesting graphs! I have one of the original A04s too, and it is very different from the A07. With that amp, I normally play at full position on the amp and adjust sound with the preamp. By your measurements, then, I am normally using the A07 at just about 1 watt (position H). The input sensitivity could definitely play a part in this too.

Yeah, given how loud it gets for me in nearfield, even at the H position, I would not use the 48v/5a brick with the A07, where I find that brick is useful for the Fosi V3 and BT20a MAX amps.
I Concur, I tried the 48V SMPS with the A07, and cranked full on it does not sound as clean as the 36V SMPS full-on.
 
EDITORIAL COMMENT:

It’s great to see this thread alive after five years.

I’ve owned a couple of A07’s over the years and for $50 -$60, they are great little amps.

What a fantastic product for folks wanting to take their earbuds out and listen ro full-bodied, immersive music as many of us have done for decades.

I hope this thread continues for another five years.

NOW BACK TO THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED DISCUSSION.
 
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